N.R.A. Declines to Meet With Obama on Gun Policy

[twyacht]

Just send Ted Nugent. That way, the conversation will at least be interesting, and if Helmke and other anti's have to suddenly change their underwear,...

well,........

[MikeBjerum]

Haz,

I agree with you.  We need to at least have a dialog and exchange of positions.  However, the NRA has stated their stance and negotiated away too much over the years when they went to D.C.!

It is time for Pres. BHO to make an appointment with the NRA and go to Virginia to make his presentation to the entire NRA Board (Uncle Ted can moderate, and I'll buy tickets  ).  We don't need to do anything but listen and and take all printed propaganda material.  When he is done he should be told that we will be in touch to set an appointment for him to come back and get our response.

Beyond that it is up to Chris Cox to keep the courts full of cases fighting the infringements.

[philw]

[philw]

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=6421
On Sunday, March 13, the Arizona Star published an op-ed from President Barack Obama that discussed his belief that we should seek “agreement on gun reforms.”

Those “agreements” would almost certainly include new restrictions on the Second Amendment rights of the American people that are unneeded and unacceptable for law-abiding gun owners.

Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre and NRA-ILA Executive Director Chris W. Cox responded to the President in a letter delivered to the White House on March 14
http://www.nraila.org/pdfs/obamaletter314.pdf

[tombogan03884]

I would like a seat at that table.  I want to know what they are discussing.  That is what the NRA is for!

It's a waste of time, they want to take our guns away and will lie endlessly to accomplish something that only a very small minority still believe in .
Mean while the rest of us just say F*ck you.
NRA has over 5 million members donating a minimum of $35/year.
Brady has a membership of 25,000 donating an average of $25/ year.
When NRA says screw you and stays home, not only are there no "discussions", there aren't even any chairs.

M58, Dialog ? Are you foolish ?  Fu*k them, we have the guns, they better kiss our asses.
Didn't you learn anything from the NFA, GCA, or the Clinton AWB ?
Talking to these azzholes is a losing proposition.
Do you want a magazine ban ? Do you want ammo registered ?

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[twyacht]

When NRA says screw you and stays home, not only are there no "discussions", there aren't even any chairs.

Your right, however, Uncle Ted would fit the table discussion so well,...

There are hundreds of millions of gun owners in this country, and not one of them will have an accident today. The only misuse of guns comes in environments where there are drugs, alcohol, bad parents, and undisciplined children. Period.
Ted Nugent

"You mean to say that when an imbecile walks into a church, office, day care center, or school, stumbling about, almost zombie-like, with gun-filled hands at his side, blabbering incoherently to his next victim, the reaction of grown men and women is to run, cry, whimper, and hide under a desk or pew?  The sheeping of America is nearly complete."

 "How many more times are we going to cower under tables and chairs, whimpering like mindless dogs, thinking that someone else has the responsibility to save and protect us?"

(Mr. Helmke).....

"And don't believe for a minute the wild-ass lies of [anti-gun/anti-Second Amendment folks'] stoned leaders like Jann Wenner of "Rolling Stoned" magazine.  As head honcho of Cease Fire, this goofball blatantly manipulates and controls the words and pages of his powerful publications under the bulletproof umbrella of the First Amendment while he laughs out loud wiping his ass with the Second... Though oft repeated in rags like his, a handgun IS NOT forty-seven times more likely to kill a family member, unless of course, you and the whole tribe are in the crack runnin' trade and/or on parole as a lifestyle.  That ramrod figure is as false as Jann's wedding vows.  After he left his wife and children to go off into the sunset, ass in hand, with his new boyfriend, he turned up his antigun heat by increasing his hateful editorials and free magazine ad space with outrageous twisted lies about guns and gun owners."

The war is coming to the streets of America and if you are not keeping and bearing and practicing with your arms then you will be helpless and you will be the victim of evil.

Gee Tom,...I would think this is a sound idea,....

Send Uncle Ted...Make them gasp, say Oh, SH**, shake their heads, and say to BHO,....."This may have been a bad idea;"....

 

Re-read the 2nd Amend. and ask why is your "hood" in Chicago in such violations of SCOTUS rulings....?

Throw it in their face and make them defend it.
 

 

 

 

[tombogan03884]

Thing is TW, they don't believe that BS any more than we do.
Less in fact, because they actually sit around making it up while we go looking for facts and references, so if you sit down and make them defend it they will just say "But it's for the children", if you're against this you must hate kids.
As Herman Cain so eloquently put it at CPAC they only use 3 tactics, (actually 4, he left out violent attacks )
Shift the subject, Pro 2nd A = Anti Children
Ignore the facts, More legal guns may or may not lead to less crime, but fewer legal guns DO lead to more crime.
Name calling, "Gun nut", "Racist", "Baby killer".
One thing I want to comment on that is a little off topic. I'm reading Stephen Hunter's book "American Gunfight" about the 11-1-1950 attempt on Harry Truman by 2 Puerto Rican Nationalists, (Shoot out at the Blair house ).
In one chapter he looks at the psychology of presidential attackers, from Booth to Hinkley,

"You mean to say that when an imbecile walks into a church, office, day care center, or school, stumbling about, almost zombie-like, with gun-filled hands at his side, blabbering incoherently to his next victim, the reaction of grown men and women is to run, cry, whimper, and hide under a desk or pew?  The sheeping of America is nearly complete."[/b]

Only 3 have not fit somewhere in that description, Booth and the 2 Puerto Ricans, they were the only ones who, previously normal, popular, and well adjusted, acted for purely political reasons. As Oscar Collazo told a Secret service agent, "I did not come here to harm Harry Truman, I came to kill the American President". It wasn't personal .
The others have all been like Jared Luaphner, maladjusted, loser, outsiders, trying to become important, if only for a minute by commiting an act of violence that is more about them than about the office of the person they are attacking..

[WatchManUSA]

They are up to NO GOOD!  If the NRA goes to the meeting they will be accepting the premise of the meeting which is to put more restrictions upon lawful gun ownership by law abiding citizens.

[tombogan03884]

It's just like "Reaching across the aisle" in congress, it's a sucker move that never results in more liberty.

[seeker_two]

I would like a seat at that table.  I want to know what they are discussing.  That is what the NRA is for!

Not when Obama and the MSM will spin it into participation and support for "common sense firearms regulation". The NRA is making the smart move here....maybe they should even hold a counter-meeting to discuss what gun laws should be abolished, the shutdown of the BATFE, and the political consequences for any politician who supports Obama's move.....