What do you think

[TAB]

Read "The Art Of The Deal", Trumps first book back 15-20 years ago. Trump Sr. gave him nothing but a tenement row bldg. in Queens, and a "good luck"....

He knows how to play the game in a me boss you not situation. The big BUTT in the room in Congress,....we are infested with RINO's, the statists, and the Progressive Pelosi types...

Could Trump get a business plan to make this country work????Yeah,...but Congress would shut him down,,, No talk of the Fair Tax, no talk of the Flat Tax,...NO talk of any tax reforms, by any candidate, for those of us that file and PAY.

I hope to find better by election day.

trust me, no big biz man is clean...  he has filed bk mor ethen once.

[tombogan03884]

trust me, no big biz man is clean...  he has filed bk mor ethen once.

Typical TAB, every silver lining has to have it's misspelled cloud.
Have you ever had anything good to say about any one ? Ever ?

Read "The Art Of The Deal", Trumps first book back 15-20 years ago. Trump Sr. gave him nothing but a tenement row bldg. in Queens, and a "good luck"....

He knows how to play the game in a me boss you not situation. The big BUTT in the room in Congress,....we are infested with RINO's, the statists, and the Progressive Pelosi types...

Could Trump get a business plan to make this country work????Yeah,...but Congress would shut him down,,, No talk of the Fair Tax, no talk of the Flat Tax,...NO talk of any tax reforms, by any candidate, for those of us that file and PAY.

I hope to find better by election day.

I don't think you will, not one that has any chance of actually getting elected.
Romney and Rudy G. are anti gun ,pro abortion, pro Obamacare RINO's
Huckabee, and Newt have to much baggage, between Newt's affairs and Huckabee's pardons.
Ron Paul is already a 2 time loser, while he may get some of the youth vote, to many view him as a flake.
Palin is to much of a lightning rod, the left have already got her zero'd in.
Bachmann, Pawlenty,Santorum ,Jindal,Cain and West, are to new to the national scene to get the name recognition, on top of that Cain and West are black, BHO has pretty much poisoned that well for a while.

1 - He has more business experience than Romney, With out the RINO baggage
2- He has enough money to out spend the Dems, what got Obummer elected was massive spending on media.
3- He already has ideas to fix what people see as the main issue, (Hint, "It's the economy stupid." )
4- He has a history, (unlike certain pompous assholes I can think of ) of getting things done .
5- He has a reputation for picking underlings who also get things done. (or not lasting long)
6- He claims to be against gun control,Abortion, Obamacare, and raising taxes.
7- His "affairs" were between marriages when he was single, therefore not an issue.
8- His past is no secret, every one in America has been aware of him for over 20 years.
9- He has indeed, as TAB alleges with out knowledge, filed bankruptcy, back in the 80's he filed for financial reorganization, he worked with his creditors and resolved the issues that were mostly a result of the economy of the day.

I had not really considered him a serious candidate until my Dad mentioned him, the above is just thinking on the key board but considering what I see coming into the state to sniff around I think he will get my primary vote.

[TAB]

yes i do, just very rare for people running/ in office.

[tombogan03884]

Who ?
 I would LOVE to meet this paragon of virtue.

[Solus]

Found this link on Trump and gun control.

http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Donald_Trump_Gun_Control.htm

Relevant points:

Dems and Reps are both wrong on guns
It’s often argued that the American murder rate is high because guns are more available here than in other countries. Democrats want to confiscate all guns, which is a dumb idea because only the law-abiding citizens would turn in their guns and the bad guys would be the only ones left armed. The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions.
Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102 Jul 2, 2000

For assault weapon ban, waiting period, & background check
I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s Internet technology we should be able to tell within 72-hours if a potential gun owner has a record.
Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102 Jul 2, 2000



Can we live with that?  

I think his waiting period thoughts are not for harassment and delay of honest gun owners, but to insure a through job is done of weeding out the bad guys.  I expect that if the process were faster, he would support a shorter time.  Problem is that when the process does become quicker, he won't be around to push for a reduced waiting period.  Then there here is also the concern that more personal information will be gathered and made available for the process.

On the Assault Weapon ban, I suspect he has bought the hype, not because he thinks they are evil, just does  not know they are not the same weapon carried by troops. Perhaps he can be educated.  If, however, he does have concerns about full auto weapons in honest civilian hands, he will probably support a magazine capacity limit also.

I am generally a one issue voter.  Basically, I feel that if a politician doesn't trust me, I sure am not gonna trust them.  Also, as long as Americans are armed as the Founders intended, we have the means to deal with all the other issues should things go that far south.

At this time, however, I do feel I need to consider the other issues.  If we can elect a president who can deal with illegal immigration, immigrant assimilation necessity, foreign policy both economic and militarily and get this country producing and back on track all in a strong and decisive manner, we might be much better off supporting him and "teaching" him about gun ownership and the 2nd Amendment than trying to teach a stronger 2A candidate about all those other issues.

The hand basket is going down hill pretty damned fast now and we all know exactly where it is heading.

[Sponsor]

[jstm]

Sell his Mama for a BUCK & anyone else that gets in the way. YMMV

[tombogan03884]

Sell his Mama for a BUCK & anyone else that gets in the way. YMMV

How is that any different than any of the others ? Like say, Obummer who, along with his wife and known associates are openly anti American,if the Reps hand him another term by running some unelectable chump like McCain ?

Found this link on Trump and gun control.

http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Donald_Trump_Gun_Control.htm

Relevant points:

Dems and Reps are both wrong on guns
It’s often argued that the American murder rate is high because guns are more available here than in other countries. Democrats want to confiscate all guns, which is a dumb idea because only the law-abiding citizens would turn in their guns and the bad guys would be the only ones left armed. The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions.
Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102 Jul 2, 2000

For assault weapon ban, waiting period, & background check
I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s Internet technology we should be able to tell within 72-hours if a potential gun owner has a record.
Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102 Jul 2, 2000



Can we live with that?  

I think his waiting period thoughts are not for harassment and delay of honest gun owners, but to insure a through job is done of weeding out the bad guys.  I expect that if the process were faster, he would support a shorter time.  Problem is that when the process does become quicker, he won't be around to push for a reduced waiting period.  Then there here is also the concern that more personal information will be gathered and made available for the process.

On the Assault Weapon ban, I suspect he has bought the hype, not because he thinks they are evil, just does  not know they are not the same weapon carried by troops. Perhaps he can be educated.  If, however, he does have concerns about full auto weapons in honest civilian hands, he will probably support a magazine capacity limit also.

I am generally a one issue voter.  Basically, I feel that if a politician doesn't trust me, I sure am not gonna trust them.  Also, as long as Americans are armed as the Founders intended, we have the means to deal with all the other issues should things go that far south.

At this time, however, I do feel I need to consider the other issues.  If we can elect a president who can deal with illegal immigration, immigrant assimilation necessity, foreign policy both economic and militarily and get this country producing and back on track all in a strong and decisive manner, we might be much better off supporting him and "teaching" him about gun ownership and the 2nd Amendment than trying to teach a stronger 2A candidate about all those other issues.

The hand basket is going down hill pretty damned fast now and we all know exactly where it is heading.

That's pretty much my thinking, No one ( other than TT and I    ) is talking about repealing any of the current regulation, or making fire arms ownership mandatory, that being the case the choice will come down to who is best able to deal with the other issues facing us.
When you have that short list figured, then pick the one who can actually get elected. From what I currently see the only names on the primary ballot are either RINO's who will give us more bipartisan butt blasting, a 2 time loser ( Paul ), and a couple of" Who ?" that lack the financial resources for the long haul.

[PegLeg45]

It would make for one hell of a history book chapter if Ol' Possum-top is the one who gets elected and turns the economy around.

Tom makes very good points.

[jstm]

How is that any different than any of the others ? Like say, Obummer who, along with his wife and known associates are openly anti American,if the Reps hand him another term by running some unelectable chump like McCain ?

That's pretty much my thinking, No one ( other than TT and I     ) is talking about repealing any of the current regulation, or making fire arms ownership mandatory, that being the case the choice will come down to who is best able to deal with the other issues facing us.
When you have that short list figured, then pick the one who can actually get elected. From what I currently see the only names on the primary ballot are either RINO's who will give us more bipartisan butt blasting, a 2 time loser ( Paul ), and a couple of" Who ?" that lack the financial resources for the long haul.

He is not any different except I think he is a patriot & not anti American,but I worry about him feeding that massive ego & he has supported Democrats with his money in the past I just don't see him as an improvement or anybody else in the running for that matter right now.I agree about the  RINO's & the new people not being ready.I like Palin, but can she win .

[tombogan03884]

No, Palin can not win. The left gets to much mileage from her "lack of experience" (compared to Bhore that's a joke, but it's working ) and the fact that she resigned as Gov. of Alaska, (the fact that with continual attacks from the left she could not properly do her job is carefully ignored ) and to many "moderate" Republicans buy into the propaganda.
She would  beat Ron Paul, and most of the others in Primaries, but in the end she would lose, even to Obama.