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fightingquaker13

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Re: Live free, or die !
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2011, 08:27:22 AM »
Never thought Andrew Jackson was a liberal asshat, I guess you learn something new every day. ;D But Tom, you are basically backing up those cities and states that say "Screw the feds, Heller doesn't apply here". You can't have it both ways man.
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Re: Live free, or die !
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2011, 08:47:08 AM »
Never thought Andrew Jackson was a liberal asshat, I guess you learn something new every day. ;D But Tom, you are basically backing up those cities and states that say "Screw the feds, Heller doesn't apply here". You can't have it both ways man.
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No, FQ, it is not trying to have it both ways.

This bill is to nullify any action that the Feds are not authorized to take under the Constitution.  Obama Care (and the slew of other actions under consideration), AND violation of citizens 2A rights are both not authorized under the Constitution.

This opens up the question of what interpretation of the Constitution is valid.  

That would seem to be the one ruled valid by the SCOTUS.  

Those appointments are more critical than who gets elected to any other specific office.

I agree with them about the recent 2A rulings, but not with the Eminent Domain ruling of a few years ago.

Giving any level of government the ability to seize private property so that it can be used to produce a greater tax revenue is so counter to the founding principles of this nation that is sickens me.  Of course, If I was 'god' there would be so little taxation that the ruling would be meaningless anyway.


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Re: Live free, or die !
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2011, 01:34:15 PM »
Never thought Andrew Jackson was a liberal asshat, I guess you learn something new every day. ;D But Tom, you are basically backing up those cities and states that say "Screw the feds, Heller doesn't apply here". You can't have it both ways man.
FQ13

From the original article : (5th full line, check for yourself )

"Democrats argued that the measure resurrects arguments that were settled by the Civil War and said it should be rejected out of hand."

Yes, you repeated what the asshats said almost verbatim.

From FQ's post :
" But Tom, you are basically backing up those cities and states that say "Screw the feds, Heller doesn't apply here"."

Typical over educated under thought BS.
No. FQ, it is saying that Heller is irrelevant because the they understand the definition of "Shall not be infringed".
You know, that whole Constitution thing ?

Any body got a good club for sale ?   ::)


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Re: Live free, or die !
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2011, 02:02:28 PM »
well done
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Re: Live free, or die !
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2011, 04:04:33 PM »


Any body got a good club for sale ?
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Re: Live free, or die !
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Re: Live free, or die !
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2011, 06:36:52 PM »
Giving any level of government the ability to seize private property so that it can be used to produce a greater tax revenue is so counter to the founding principles of this nation that is sickens me.  Of course, If I was 'god' there would be so little taxation that the ruling would be meaningless anyway.

If you're talking about the  New London vs.....whoever...it was a stupid decision and it went nowhere.  The company that the ED was granted for has left the building.  All of this BS was for nothing.  General Dynamics ended up buying the property in New London for pennies on the dollar of what it was worth and today, the property sits vacant.

New London never made a dime.....

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Re: Live free, or die !
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2011, 10:23:38 PM »
Here's a memo to the peanut gallery. "Anybody got a good club for sale"? Consider this. If NH sets up a comittee to consider which laws are Constitiounal, what is to keep Illinios or New Jersey from doing the same? And if they decide the 2A is about a "well regulated militia"? What are you going to say then? Sorry. This Southern Boy has had a belly full of states rights. I'll put my money on the Bill of Rights.
FQ13 who says be careful what you wish for. Maybe its because I come from the most corrupt statate in the Union, but I'd rather put my money on tthe US supreme Court than the Florida Legislature.

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Re: Live free, or die !
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2011, 11:01:46 PM »
It won't make any difference they act that way any way.

So I take it you think the Dredd Scot decision was sound ?

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Re: Live free, or die !
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2011, 07:22:51 AM »
If you're talking about the  New London vs.....whoever...it was a stupid decision and it went nowhere.  The company that the ED was granted for has left the building.  All of this BS was for nothing.  General Dynamics ended up buying the property in New London for pennies on the dollar of what it was worth and today, the property sits vacant.

New London never made a dime.....

First part of that statement is true. The second part is absolutely false - the Kelo decision has been used countless times since then to justify cities and counties taking private land in other states. It is now the law, even though the asshats in CT failed to follow up.
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Re: Live free, or die !
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2011, 07:27:48 AM »
I meant in that instance it didn't have the desired effect that New London was hoping for Path.  I agree that it has been used repeatedly in all the wrong ways.

A side note....anyone traveling through CT would be well advised to avoid New London entirely.  It's a shithole!  I work about a mile north of that town.

 

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