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New DNC chief wants to screen all gun sales
« on: April 19, 2011, 12:47:09 PM »
By Mike Lillis - 04/18/11 06:19 PM ET

The new head of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) is pushing for screenings of all gun purchases.

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz said the current law, which allows private firearm sales without background checks, is "outrageous." The Florida Democrat is sponsoring a soon-to-be-released proposal extending the screening requirements to all gun purchases, commercial or private.

"It is outrageous that gun buyers evade the background-check system every day, even in broad daylight," Wasserman Schultz said Monday at a gun-reform rally in Miami sponsored by Mayors Against Illegal Guns.

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Wasserman Schultz will take the reins of the DNC later this month. Tim Kaine, the former governor of Virginia, stepped down to campaign for the Senate seat being vacated by retiring Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.). Donna Brazile is serving as the interim chairwoman of the committee.

Under current law, licensed gun dealers are required to conduct background checks to ensure that prospective buyers are legally eligible to own firearms. Felons, illegal immigrants and the severely mentally ill, for instance, are barred from owning guns. Licensed dealers must perform these screenings in all venues — including gun shows — but unlicensed dealers are under no obligation to follow them anywhere. Critics of the policy discrepancy call it the "gun-show loophole."

The coming House legislation will require all gun sellers to perform background checks on potential buyers — a change forcing private sellers to finalize their sales at licensed dealers or law enforcement offices, which have access to the federal database used to weed out illegal buyers.

Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) introduced similar legislation in the upper chamber earlier in the year.

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http://thehill.com/homenews/house/156699-new-dnc-chief-endorses-universal-screenings-for-gun-sales

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Re: New DNC chief wants to screen all gun sales
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2011, 01:00:01 PM »
More crap that, if passed, will only serve to tie the hands of legal gun owners and law-abiding citizens. The criminals will continue to work below the laws.
These asshats just don't get it.
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Re: New DNC chief wants to screen all gun sales
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2011, 01:09:22 PM »
And I want to screen all the contributions made to the DNC and MAIG. 

I have more legal standing than they do, but will I get what I want? 
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Re: New DNC chief wants to screen all gun sales
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2011, 01:47:49 PM »
And I want to screen stop all the contributions made to the DNC and MAIG. 

I have more legal standing than they do, but will I get what I want? 

FIFY.

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Re: New DNC chief wants to screen all gun sales
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2011, 02:16:29 PM »
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The coming House legislation will require all gun sellers to perform background checks on potential buyers — a change forcing private sellers to finalize their sales at licensed dealers or law enforcement offices, which have access to the federal database used to weed out illegal buyers.

Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) introduced similar legislation in the upper chamber earlier in the year.


Ah there's a technical rub here.   Actually "Sales" aren't regulated as such.  The key word is "TRANSFERS".   

I can buy and sell guns all I want with no oversight (think GunBroker, think NYSE), but the minute I go to take poccession, to effect the "TRANSFER" that's when the federal regulations kick in.

Let that soak in for a minute.   TRANSFERS

Unless specifically exempted, anytime a gun changes hand would be a "transfer".
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Re: New DNC chief wants to screen all gun sales
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Re: New DNC chief wants to screen all gun sales
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2011, 02:37:09 PM »
Gosh, I wonder how two gang bangers making a gun deal in a dark alley are gonna be able to conduct the background checks?

I guess they will just have to find a way...  maybe an IPhone App?
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Re: New DNC chief wants to screen all gun sales
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2011, 01:42:59 AM »
This is not news or even remotely new. This is just a more honest name for "Gun show loophole".
And they do not want to "screen" all gun sales, their objective is to ban them completely.
All you have to do is read the democratic party platform. Screening is just what they think you are dumb enough to let happen now, like Paul Helmke said, "a good first step", BUT ONLY A FIRST STEP. Yet some of you ( TAB, are you reading this ) are to stupid to get it, you "vote for the person, not the party", like YOUR dem is different.

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Re: New DNC chief wants to screen all gun sales
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2011, 05:42:30 AM »
This is not news or even remotely new. This is just a more honest name for "Gun show loophole".
And they do not want to "screen" all gun sales, their objective is to ban them completely.
All you have to do is read the democratic party platform. Screening is just what they think you are dumb enough to let happen now, like Paul Helmke said, "a good first step", BUT ONLY A FIRST STEP. Yet some of you ( TAB, are you reading this ) are to stupid to get it, you "vote for the person, not the party", like YOUR dem is different.

AMERICA, WAKE THE F*CK UP !

Tom, while you are right in general, there are some specific situations where you are incorrect.

here in Ohio, we struggled to get CCW passed and then to have it Veto'ed by the Republican Gov.  Taft.  It was finally passed but only after he managed to get it filled with enough crap that he thought it would be a deal breaker.

We then elected Gov. Strickland (D) and he was a true supporter of the 2A.  He championed cleaning up of the CCW law that was passed and got it done with many of the onerous provisions removed.  Castle Doctrine was passed with his total support and the support of several Democrat Senators and Representatives who were endorsed by the Buckeye Firearms Association (http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/) and elected.

You are correct, however, Gov. Strickland did support much of the rest of the Democrat platform, including ObamaCare.

Strickland lost to a Republican in the last election and legislation to further clean up our CCW laws have been stalled due to the failure of the Republicans to live up to campaign promises to push the changes through.  I do feel that the lack of strong support and the lack of active pressure on the part of the governor has lead to this lack of commitment on the part of the Republicans.

The Republicans here in Ohio just don't seem to "Get It" when it comes to the 2A, while many Democrats are strong supporters.

I guess the case here is choice between strong 2A Democrats or weak 2A RINOs.

My choice is to secure our most important rights first, 2A rights, then work to undo the ills caused by the rest of the Democrat platform.

Strickland had my vote both times, but he lost the second time.  
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Re: New DNC chief wants to screen all gun sales
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2011, 10:51:04 AM »
Vote for a Rep. and you MIGHT get a RINO azzhole, Vote  for any Dem and you deserve results.

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Re: New DNC chief wants to screen all gun sales
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2011, 12:35:27 PM »
Vote for a Rep. and you MIGHT get a RINO azzhole, Vote  for any Dem and you deserve results.

True.   I voted for Strickland and I got improved CCW laws and Castle Doctrine and other 2A laws passed.

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"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."
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