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Re: Robbery/Possible executions foiled at Walgreens
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2011, 05:28:44 PM »
I can asure you they would have both been just as dead if they fought back.

Thats not something you do on a whim, The POS planed to kill them.  


How you stop armed robberys like this is simple... you do what the sherrif of pulaski county( the county little rock AR is in) did in the 70s.  He had a press confrence saying there would be plain clothed LEOs in som convenience stores, with orders to shoot on site. For the 1st few nights nothing happen, then two people "got lucky" and picked the wrong store to rob.  they were both shot and killed.  they did not have another armed robbery on a convenience store for 19 months.



You would first have to assure us they would have been acting on a whim, which is something you cannot do.

If the clerks were armed and ready, they would not be acting on a whim any more than the LEOs who were there in the 70s

There was a town in TX back in the 70s too where the Sheriff conducted firearms courses for business owners.  At the time it was ridiculed by the other small town just down the road.

after the classes a couple of stores were attempted to be robbed and the robbers were killed.  

The robbery rate in that town went to zero while the rate in the town down the road doubled.


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Re: Robbery/Possible executions foiled at Walgreens
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2011, 05:57:22 PM »
I can asure you they would have both been just as dead if they fought back.

How in the world do you make that jump into fantasy land?   I hope you don't give the same advice to potential rape victims.

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How you stop armed robberys like this is simple...

Yes, it is.
The same way you stop other violent crimes.....when all else fails, shoot the sumbitch.
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Re: Robbery/Possible executions foiled at Walgreens
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2011, 08:44:22 PM »

The same way you stop other violent crimes.....when all else fails, shoot the sumbitch.

Yep.
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Re: Robbery/Possible executions foiled at Walgreens
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2011, 08:53:48 AM »
How in the world do you make that jump into fantasy land?   I hope you don't give the same advice to potential rape victims.




There is a huge diffrence between a physical attack at contact distance and a guy point a gun at you with a counter in the way.


If a scum bag shot 2 people in the face in 2 diffrent robberys so there was no witness, they were planing on doing that in the 1st place.

I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: Robbery/Possible executions foiled at Walgreens
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2011, 11:10:19 AM »

There is a huge diffrence between a physical attack at contact distance and a guy point a gun at you with a counter in the way.


If a scum bag shot 2 people in the face in 2 diffrent robberys so there was no witness, they were planing on doing that in the 1st place.



The pharmacist in Walgreens must have not have gotten your message.   When the bad guy pointed a gun at  him,  that fool drew his own weapon, fired and perhaps hit his assailant, and drove the two bad guys out of the store, possibly saving his own life and the lives of the other workers.  

What an idiot.  He should have known he was sure to die if he resisted.  Some people never learn.
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Re: Robbery/Possible executions foiled at Walgreens
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Re: Robbery/Possible executions foiled at Walgreens
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2011, 07:02:28 PM »
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Cotter said he would not release store video images until there are arrests.


Ummm WTF is the point of having cameras if you are not even going to show them to the public to try and catch these assholes?


Hope the bloke sues their asses off for wrongful termination.
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Re: Robbery/Possible executions foiled at Walgreens
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2011, 07:06:55 PM »
This story is kind of tangential to the OP, so I decided to post it here instead of a new thread:

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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jVDJbdVgXE56lVzbJeZX2krugRAg?docId=30f266df419846b0adb0e78d8c5db814

Police: Gunman at NY pharmacy wanted painkillers

YAPHANK, N.Y. (AP) — Four people killed during a pharmacy store robbery in suburban New York City, including a teenager due to graduate high school this week, were shot at very close range by a dangerous suspect intent on stealing painkillers, a police official said Monday.

Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer also warned physicians and the owners of small drugstores in the area to be vigilant about anyone "expressing an urgent need for prescription painkillers." He said added police patrols would be deployed near small pharmacies until a suspect is apprehended.

Dormer called Sunday's killing at the Long Island pharmacy "one of the most heinous, brutal crimes we have ever encountered."

The shootings happened at about 10:20 a.m. inside Haven Drugs in Medford, a family-owned pharmacy in a small cluster of medical offices about 60 miles east of New York City. Police identified the two employees who were killed as pharmacist Raymond Ferguson, 45, of Centereach, and store clerk Jennifer Mejia, 17, of East Patchogue.

Bryon Sheffield, 71, of Medford, and Jamie Taccetta, a 33-year-old woman from Farmingville, were identified as customers who were also slain.

"The victims whose lives were cut tragically short were killed for no apparent reason and without warning," Dormer said. "They offered no resistance and did not appear to provoke the assailant. They were all shot at close range."
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Self-Defense Tip: Shoot the Bastard

Four people killed during a pharmacy store robbery in suburban New York City, including a teenager due to graduate high school this week, were shot at very close range by a dangerous suspect intent on stealing painkillers,” our friends at the AP report. “Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer [said] police patrols would be deployed near small pharmacies until a suspect is apprehended.” Yeah, that’s going to do it. Aside from railing against a state that infringes on Americans’ god-given right to armed self-defense, how about this: if you have a gun you must be ready, willing and able to use it. To do that, you have to master the grieving process . . .

Life is a constant grieving process. New job? Kid entering puberty? Switching from PC to Mac? New car? 40th birthday? You have to let go of the old before you can embrace the new. We do so in five stages: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance.

To maintain enough presence of mind to act responsibly and effectively in an armed self-defense situation, you have to drop your attachment to the non-armed self defense reality that preceded the event. You have to grieve for peace and prepare for war. And you have seconds to do it. Tear through them.

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"I expect perdition, I always have. I keep this building at my back, and several guns handy, in case perdition arrives in a form that's susceptible to bullets. I expect it will come in the disease form, though. I'm susceptible to diseases, and you can't shoot a damned disease." ~ Judge Roy Bean, Streets of Laredo

For the Patriots of this country, the Constitution is second only to the Bible for most. For those who love this country, but do not share my personal beliefs, it is their Bible. To them nothing comes before the Constitution of these United States of America. For this we are all labeled potential terrorists. ~ Dean Garrison

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