Tucson SWAT Team Defends Shooting Iraq Vet 60 Times

[Hazcat]

how can they defend this

I would like to know more about the incident,

so who would be investigating it,  the sheriff's department??

It SHOULD be the State Police, BUT I believe that must be requested by either the Sheriff or the AG.  At least that's how it works here in FL.

[Hazcat]

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Para-Military operations in our cities is getting out of hand and another reason I live in the sticks......

On one of those' reality' follow the cops around shows I remember seeing a swat guy say he was there because he really liked the 'adrenalin rush'!  That statement alone should keep him from being a cop let alone a swat team member!

I have long stated that SWAT teams do MUCH more harm than good and should be few and far between if any.  Heck it seems that every little podunk department has a 'swat' team.

These para-military cops kill more innocents and create more ill will with the public than anything else.  Not to mention the illegal, anti-constitutional actions they take.

[Timothy]

On one of those' reality' follow the cops around shows I remember seeing a swat guy say he was there because he really liked the 'adrenalin rush'!  That statement alone should keep him from being a cop let alone a swat team member!

I have long stated that SWAT teams do MUCH more harm than good and should be few and far between if any.  Heck it seems that every little podunk department has a 'swat' team.

These para-military cops kill more innocents and create more ill will with the public than anything else.  Not to mention the illegal, anti-constitutional actions they take.

Agreed....

We have one cop, forty hours a week that cost the town about 150K annually...it's all we need.

[Solus]

On one of those' reality' follow the cops around shows I remember seeing a swat guy say he was there because he really liked the 'adrenalin rush'!  That statement alone should keep him from being a cop let alone a swat team member!

I have long stated that SWAT teams do MUCH more harm than good and should be few and far between if any.  Heck it seems that every little podunk department has a 'swat' team.

These para-military cops kill more innocents and create more ill will with the public than anything else.  Not to mention the illegal, anti-constitutional actions they take.

You are only right, Haz.

I honestly am starting to think that a citizens vigilante group would handle issues like this with more forethought and less heavy handedness than we have seen in some of the incidents we have discussed here.

And they would be operating without the clout of their agency and the government to whitewash their mistakes.  They would answer to the folks next door and across the street.  Bad eggs would be known and never get on the team.

[PegLeg45]

On one of those' reality' follow the cops around shows I remember seeing a swat guy say he was there because he really liked the 'adrenalin rush'!  That statement alone should keep him from being a cop let alone a swat team member!

I have long stated that SWAT teams do MUCH more harm than good and should be few and far between if any.  Heck it seems that every little podunk department has a 'swat' team.

These para-military cops kill more innocents and create more ill will with the public than anything else.  Not to mention the illegal, anti-constitutional actions they take.

TV shows like 'COPS' and that ilk have done as much to foul-up the mentality of young LEO's as anything else.........  IMHO.

[Sponsor]

[Ichiban]

TV shows like 'COPS' and that ilk have done as much to foul-up the mentality of young LEO's as anything else.........  IMHO.

You mean the movie S.W.A.T. wasn't a documentary?   

[PegLeg45]

You mean the movie S.W.A.T. wasn't a documentary?   

Sounds like it could be, as of now.   

[Timothy]

You mean the movie S.W.A.T. wasn't a documentary?   

Heck, it wasn't even a believable movie for goodness sake......

[alfsauve]

Para-Military operations in our cities is getting out of hand and another reason I live in the sticks......

Ah well don't rest too easy there, Tim.   ATF has been known to range outside the city limits.   No reason the DEA couldn't as well.

[Rastus]

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I honestly am starting to think that a citizens vigilante group would handle issues like this with more forethought and less heavy handedness than we have seen in some of the incidents we have discussed here.
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Question.  When this country was being settled it was a) Law Enforcment or b) citizens that "pacified" the criminals in the land.

Focus in history is on a limited number of flamboyant bad guys who got caught up and brought to justice (one way or another).  Criminals like gangsters and famous western outlaws.  It would be simple minded to believe that those few examples were the extent of lawlessness.  Not to take away from the many others who were apprehended by the law unknown, but I suspect before 1900 that many more criminals lie in an unmarked grave put there by the citizen public protecting house, home and neighbor.