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Freedom under fire (CNN)
« on: March 14, 2008, 10:54:42 AM »

Freedom under fire
The conviction of a Wisconsin gun owner is stirring up gun advocates. CNN's Bill Tucker explains

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Re: Freedom under fire (CNN)
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2008, 11:02:58 AM »
This is sick. What is wrong with the government? and the judicial system? This is a clear miscarriage of justice.

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Re: Freedom under fire (CNN)
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2008, 11:19:12 AM »
I had heard of this story several months ago (on that forum I sent to you Marshal) but there were conflicting reports at the time (some said it was an armory gun he loaned).

I am glad that all of the facts have come to light and that Lou Dobbs is pursuing it.

The BATFE is completely out of control and should be shut down NOW!
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Re: Freedom under fire (CNN)
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2008, 12:30:58 PM »
I think I'm in lover with Lou!  Don't watch much tv,  this guy is great!
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Re: Freedom under fire (CNN)
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2008, 12:32:34 PM »
I think I'm in lover with Lou!  Don't watch much tv,  this guy is great!

He's real tough on illegal immigration, too.
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Re: Freedom under fire (CNN)
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Re: Freedom under fire (CNN)
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2008, 12:44:33 PM »
I have been following this one for at least a year, same as I have Red's Trading Post, Cavalry Arms, and some others.  Even up to the time that it went to trial, they were offering to Olofson's lawyer that if he would just sing a song on a bunch of his friends or people he may or may not know, they would drop the whole thing.

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edit:  Maybe they will talk about it tonight, but one of the things in the transcripts that was brought up.  A Federal Agent for the ATF was asked if you had a double barrel shotgun, that malfunctions and shoots both barrels at the same time, is that a Machine Gun.  The answer was "yes".  Also, they were only able to get the rifle to do the double again, if they used soft primered commercial ammo, which we know is now what you use in a rifle with a floating firing pin.
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Re: Freedom under fire (CNN)
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2008, 12:55:45 PM »
I have been following this one for at least a year, same as I have Red's Trading Post, Cavalry Arms, and some others.  Even up to the time that it went to trial, they were offering to Olofson's lawyer that if he would just sing a song on a bunch of his friends or people he may or may not know, they would drop the whole thing.

-Bidah

Thats the same kind of tactics that led to the seige at Ruby Ridge.

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Re: Freedom under fire (CNN)
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2008, 03:56:11 PM »
Thats the same kind of tactics that led to the seige at Ruby Ridge.

Ruby Ridge was mostly FBI. Waco was ATF, you know when they went in with stock trailers full of body armored auto weapon equipped troops to serve a knock and serve warrant. That's why they brought the assault ladders and tried to break in through upper story windows.

Oh yeah, the warrant? It was for drugs, which last time I checked is not within the ATF's jurisdiction.

edit: Oh yeah, the agent in charge just kinda disappeared, no idea where she ended up. She was the one joking as she opened up packages of VHS video tapes to record their "successful" assault - er, warrant serving. And just how successful was it? Well the ATF had its ass handed to it, ran out of ammo (killing caged dogs in part) and had to negotiate a safe departure as most of its people were pinned down. Left with their tail between their legs.

Maybe their ego was tweaked, and this may be the reason they are such assholes to the rest of us.

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Re: Freedom under fire (CNN)
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2008, 05:00:23 PM »
You have got to be kidding me!  Is DOJ and ATF so bored they have to create felonies to charge law-abiding gun owners with?
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Re: Freedom under fire (CNN)
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2008, 05:15:39 PM »
You have got to be kidding me!  Is DOJ and ATF so bored they have to create felonies to charge law-abiding gun owners with?

Not bored. Just actively and aggressively defending what? Our shores? Nope. Our liberties? Nope. Our freedoms? Nope.

They are defending something much more vital - their budgets and (to quote Mel Brooks) their phony baloney jobs.

The so-called justice system is not, it is a legal system, which is why so many are jumping into being lawyers. Everyone is out to help each other, and we, folks, are the bait, the meat for their grinders. Justice and propriety do not matter anymore, getting ahead in the legal system does matter, and we do not matter except as victims to be processed through the system.

I'm beginning to think a lot of the crap we hear about - equal rights for this absurd group or another, are simply distractions and smokescreens from the reality - the economic enslavement of the American people with the legal system being perverted to support it - LEOs included.

Like Bennie said, it is much better to be Imhotep's slave (and alive) than to be his victim, no?

This is what the greatest country in the world is being reduced to - willing slaves to economic powers.
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