Author Topic: Talk about BS and this has to be on top  (Read 2036 times)

rojawe

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1071
  • To the Republic for which it stands One Nation
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Talk about BS and this has to be on top
« on: June 03, 2011, 08:56:10 AM »

ACLU sues the state over new immigration law


Reported by: Kimberly Houk
 
SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) – The ACLU is suing the state over a new immigration law.

Robert Archeleta is an American citizen worrying about what his life may be like in one week when a new state law goes into effect.

“If I am demonized because of the way I look, I can’t feel very comfortable, and I won’t.”

Many Hispanics like Archeleta wonder what their lives will be like when police have the right to stop them and ask for proof of citizenship, but the ACLU along with others is suing the state, asking the courts to step in, and wipe this law off the books.

“It leads to racial profiling and leads to officers making unwarranted arrests of individuals,” says Karen McCreary of the ACLU.

They also say the law is unconstitutional since immigration enforcement falls under the purview of the federal government.  Wayne Mccormack is a constitutional law professor at the University of Utah.  He says, for the ACLU, this case is not necessarily a slam dunk.

“The state is in fact right in what they are doing by applying their law to something that is already illegal under federal law.  That is a sensible argument.”

But, he says it may take more to convince a judge.  The ACLU contends the law is highly discriminatory, and will divert police officers away from solving serious crimes by turning them into immigration agents.  It’s the same point Salt Lake City Police Chief Chris Burbank spoke out about one year ago.

“As police officers we should profile criminal behavior, activity we can observe, that builds reasonable suspicion, that builds probable cause.  Tell me what is the reasonable suspicion of people in the country undocumented.”

More than likely what the eye beholds is the very thing concerning to Hispanics.


EMPLOYERS STOP THE FLOOD E-VERIFY WORKS

tombogan03884

  • Guest
Re: Talk about BS and this has to be on top
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2011, 09:40:43 AM »
Since Americans of Hispanic descent are here legally, and are generally just as law abiding as any other ethnic group  their lives will be improved.
Their wages will go up since the will no longer be competing with illegals willing to work for less, their tax burden will go down because a higher percentage of the population will be paying taxes, same with the quality of public services . Auto insurance rates will go down since a higher percentage of drivers will have the, mostly , mandatory insurance , license and stickers for their vehicles, and for the older people , with illegal aliens removed from the Social Security rolls the may even get a COLA.
This doesn't even take into account lower crime rates and lower prison populations.

Badgersmilk

  • Guest
Re: Talk about BS and this has to be on top
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2011, 10:32:07 AM »
"Racial Profiling", and "stereotypes" exist because WHY???  Yessssss, THEY WORK!

Isn't it EVERY individuals responsibility to behave in a manner they WANT to be stereotyped as?  To "set the example"?



Just saying...



kmitch200

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2290
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 5
Re: Talk about BS and this has to be on top
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2011, 10:56:08 AM »
Robert Archeleta is an American citizen worrying about what his life may be like in one week when a new state law goes into effect.
“If I am demonized because of the way I look, I can’t feel very comfortable, and I won’t.”


Forget that illegals are pouring over the border like a tsunami and are a huge drain on the economy and quality of life across the country.
It's all about feelings.  :'(   So sad...

You can say lots of bad things about pedophiles; but at least they drive slowly past schools.

tombogan03884

  • Guest
Re: Talk about BS and this has to be on top
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2011, 12:14:52 PM »
"Racial Profiling", and "stereotypes" exist because WHY???  Yessssss, THEY WORK!

Isn't it EVERY individuals responsibility to behave in a manner they WANT to be stereotyped as?  To "set the example"?



Just saying...




That's why El Al is the safest airline in the world while TSA hasn't prevented squat.

Sponsor

  • Guest
Re: Talk about BS and this has to be on top
« Reply #5 on: Today at 04:58:29 PM »

PegLeg45

  • NRA Life, SAF, Constitutionalist
  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13268
  • DRTV Ranger
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 1382
Re: Talk about BS and this has to be on top
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2011, 03:50:54 PM »
"Racial Profiling", and "stereotypes" exist because WHY???  Yessssss, THEY WORK!

Isn't it EVERY individuals responsibility to behave in a manner they WANT to be stereotyped as?  To "set the example"?



Just saying...

Amen.

I have a nephew (by marriage....had to throw that in....  ;D ) that dresses and acts like the "street thug" stereotype and then wonders why security and LEO's are always giving him the eye.

 ::)

 ::)
"I expect perdition, I always have. I keep this building at my back, and several guns handy, in case perdition arrives in a form that's susceptible to bullets. I expect it will come in the disease form, though. I'm susceptible to diseases, and you can't shoot a damned disease." ~ Judge Roy Bean, Streets of Laredo

For the Patriots of this country, the Constitution is second only to the Bible for most. For those who love this country, but do not share my personal beliefs, it is their Bible. To them nothing comes before the Constitution of these United States of America. For this we are all labeled potential terrorists. ~ Dean Garrison

"When it comes to the enemy, just because they ain't pullin' a trigger, doesn't mean they ain't totin' ammo for those that are."~PegLeg

alfsauve

  • Semper Vigilantes
  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7619
  • DRTV Ranger
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 586
Re: Talk about BS and this has to be on top
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2011, 04:24:30 PM »
ACLU sues the state over new immigration law

They also say the law is unconstitutional since immigration enforcement falls under the purview of the federal government.  


Let's extend this argument a little.

So if a local LEO sees a bank robbery then because that's under purview of the federal government, they shouldn't respond?

If a local LEO sees a kidnapping in progress, they shouldn't respond, because that too is a federal crime?

Local LEO pulls speeder over and runs a "want & warrants"   If it comes back with federal charges he can't hold the suspect for the feds?   "Oh I see you're wanted on terrorism charges.  But that's a federal crime, so I can't hold you.  Drive safely now, ya hear."

Will work for ammo
USAF MAC 437th MAW 1968-1972

bulldog75

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1171
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 15
Re: Talk about BS and this has to be on top
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2011, 07:27:36 AM »
Got to love the ACLU.  >:(
Citizens sleep peacfully at night knowing that rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf - George Orwell

 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk