Author Topic: Castle Doctrine in NH  (Read 3253 times)

tombogan03884

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Castle Doctrine in NH
« on: June 23, 2011, 11:20:39 AM »
The NH senate passed a bill that eliminates the need to attempt to retreat from NH's lethal force laws, another stipulation of the bill allows citizens to show a weapon if they have reason to believe that will prevent a crime.
( I may have worded that badly, it was in today's paper but not on the net yet)
The States Dem Gov may veto it but that doesn't matter since R's hold a super majority in both houses and an over ride is a foregone conclusion.

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Re: Castle Doctrine in NH
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2011, 03:58:32 PM »
The part about showing a weapon to prevent a crime seems to make a lot of sense. This could save lives - surprised the Dems would not be for it since it would possibly be saving the life of a criminal which is good for business - the Trial Lawyers would get more revenue from the criminal if they were alive and the Dems do very well statistically with the part of the nation that does not follow the law.
Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

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Re: Castle Doctrine in NH
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2011, 07:59:48 PM »
The part about showing a weapon to prevent a crime seems to make a lot of sense. This could save lives - surprised the Dems would not be for it since it would possibly be saving the life of a criminal which is good for business - the Trial Lawyers would get more revenue from the criminal if they were alive and the Dems do very well statistically with the part of the nation that does not follow the law.

That part got put in because of a local guy who got 3-7 years last summer.
This woman, after being told "don't go up that road, it's posted"Private Property/ Keep Out" went up the road (long driveway) .
The home owner came out and told her to get off his property. She says he was waving a gun around< He and his wife claim when he was going back into the house he took it out to put on the table by the door.
He got convicted but because of the massive public support his sentence was commuted in January.
Oh, and where is the "lady" who was so victimized ?
Jail in NC for her 3rd offense of animal cruelty/negligence.     ::)

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Re: Castle Doctrine in NH
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2011, 09:14:54 AM »
Thank you for that detail regarding the local incident in NH.  Not to drfit, but it would be good to get feedback (especially from the Pro's) about showing or alerting someone that you are armed with the goal of maintaining your personal safety without the aftermath of shooting or facing charges of "brandishing a firearm."  Are there guidlines or suggestions on how to do properly? 
My opinion, is that gripping without removing would make someone very clear on where they stand with you but would not have you pointing a gun at them (assuming there is distance between you and them.)
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Re: Castle Doctrine in NH
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2011, 09:47:56 AM »
Thank you for that detail regarding the local incident in NH.  Not to drfit, but it would be good to get feedback (especially from the Pro's) about showing or alerting someone that you are armed with the goal of maintaining your personal safety without the aftermath of shooting or facing charges of "brandishing a firearm."  Are there guidlines or suggestions on how to do properly? 
My opinion, is that gripping without removing would make someone very clear on where they stand with you but would not have you pointing a gun at them (assuming there is distance between you and them.)

My take as well.

A serious look and a firm grip on a holstered gun (that they can see you gripping) might keep one from having to let the air out of a troublesome sort.
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Re: Castle Doctrine in NH
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tombogan03884

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Re: Castle Doctrine in NH
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2011, 09:56:35 AM »
Problem with that is you get the  azzhole that will give you grief with out advancing any more, "What are going to do, shoot me ? " .
That's when you want the bean bag in the 12 ga. ( appropriately labeled "For behavior modification  ;D  )
BANG,  "yes, and if you don't leave I'm going to do it again.

On the other hand, it will keep you off the hook if you say  something like "I have called 911 and I have a gun"

Either way, less regulation is more in keeping with the intent of the Founders.

(Ref: "What Would the Founders Do"- Our Questions Their Answers. Richard Brookhiser,  2006 by Basic Books $26.00)
I don't agree with all his conclusions but it is interesting reading.

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Re: Castle Doctrine in NH
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2011, 01:11:34 PM »
CA has never had the you must retreat BS.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

tombogan03884

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Re: Castle Doctrine in NH
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2011, 03:15:36 PM »
CA has never had the you must retreat BS.

They just make it a royal pain in the a$$ to get a legal gun.
( How much longer till your Dad can take possession of the gun you gave him ?  )
As a note, this applies to "any where you have a right to be".
At work, on a public side walk etc, as well as in your home.
If you are trespassing you have to take your whooping though.   ;D

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Re: Castle Doctrine in NH
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2011, 03:47:35 PM »
still better then IL, HI, NY and NJ.


CA just gets the most press.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: Castle Doctrine in NH
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2011, 09:31:51 PM »
still better then IL, HI, NY and NJ.


CA just gets the most press.

Whoopie !     \
  That's a great recommendation right there.    ::)
Talk about "damning with faint praise"  ::)

 

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