ACT SCORE SCANDAL

[MikeBjerum]

And just released in today's paper, Beverly Hall, the Superintendent of Atlanta Public Schools, knew the cheating was going on and took retaliatory actions against whistle blowers.

How much jail time for her?

Like I said in mine, those that pushed it are done.  She is one that is done, and when you go after a whistle blower there are laws that have been broken.

[Pathfinder]

Hell has frozen over.  I agree with FQ.

You work cheap, TT. I do not agree with FQ - money did change hands, they should all go to jail for fraud and corruption. They got paid, remember? To be teachers and admins, not to game the system and involve thousands of students in a fraud on the taxpayers.

[MikeBjerum]

You work cheap, TT. I do not agree with FQ - money did change hands, they should all go to jail for fraud and corruption. They got paid, remember? To be teachers and admins, not to game the system and involve thousands of students in a fraud on the taxpayers.

+1

[tt11758]

You work cheap, TT. I do not agree with FQ - money did change hands, they should all go to jail for fraud and corruption. They got paid, remember? To be teachers and admins, not to game the system and involve thousands of students in a fraud on the taxpayers.

You make a strong argument.

[fightingquaker13]

Look, the teachers were under pressure. Unless they took money or profited they should be fired and walk. Those that did profit or took money should face prosecution. This kind of scandal starts from the top. Its administrators wanting better scores and threatening everyone below them to make it happen. The GOP in Florida has just done the same thing. Charlie Crist (that RINO bastard ) vetoed a law that tied teachers' pay to how well their students did on the FCAT (a standardized test). That veto d was reversed by Governor Skeletor. Now, guess how many teachers have a financial; incentive to help their students cheat? I am not excusing individual behavior here. I am saying that the the environment, and the rules do effect that behavior.  Those who design a system that rewards dishonest behavior deserve their share of the blame. I offer Prohibition  as Exhibit A .
FQ13

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[Pathfinder]

Look, the teachers were under pressure. Unless they took money or profited they should be fired and walk. Those that did profit or took money should face prosecution. This kind of scandal starts from the top. Its administrators wanting better scores and threatening everyone below them to make it happen. The GOP in Florida has just done the same thing. Charlie Crist (that RINO bastard ) vetoed a law that tied teachers' pay to how well their students did on the FCAT (a standardized test). That veto d was reversed by Governor Skeletor. Now, guess how many teachers have a financial; incentive to help their students cheat? I am not excusing individual behavior here. I am saying that the the environment, and the rules do effect that behavior.  Those who design a system that rewards dishonest behavior deserve their share of the blame. I offer Prohibition  as Exhibit A .
FQ13

BULL
SHIT!

They committed fraud, they got paid to teach our children and they reneged on that contract. They go to jail.

[PegLeg45]

BULL
SHIT!

They committed fraud, they got paid to teach our children and they reneged on that contract. They go to jail.

I'll buy that for a dollar.

[tombogan03884]

If their students couldn't pass the tests  the worthless teachers should all be fired any way.

[Ichiban]

Look, the teachers were under pressure. Unless they took money or profited they should be fired and walk. Those that did profit or took money should face prosecution. This kind of scandal starts from the top. Its administrators wanting better scores and threatening everyone below them to make it happen. The GOP in Florida has just done the same thing. Charlie Crist (that RINO bastard ) vetoed a law that tied teachers' pay to how well their students did on the FCAT (a standardized test). That veto d was reversed by Governor Skeletor. Now, guess how many teachers have a financial; incentive to help their students cheat? I am not excusing individual behavior here. I am saying that the the environment, and the rules do effect that behavior.  Those who design a system that rewards dishonest behavior deserve their share of the blame. I offer Prohibition  as Exhibit A .
FQ13

Every working stiff out there is under pressure to do it faster, cheaper, and with fewer resources.  Remember the quality of US cars in the early 80s?  Somewhere along the line (after getting their ass handed to them by the Asians) they figured out quality had to be part of the equation.   Same story here.  Deal with it - that's life.

[MikeBjerum]

FQ,

The only ones that should get a pass, and not a free pass, are the ones under pressure from their superiors to commit and cover the fraud.  This is similar to fraud in the business place:  It is wrong, it harms the system and it harms society.  Even worse, it harms our youth and the future of our nation and families.

There should be no slack on this one.  Put each character in their proper roll, and dole out the punishment at the highest level for each roll.

We complain about fraud and misconduct on Wall Street, in business, and in the board room - This situation with cheating in the schools just showed an entire age group that is is not only ok but that it is the proper way to get ahead.  You wonder why we are in the mess we are - It is because of this type of BS, and it is because we do not get harsh enough with the consequences.