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I Briefly Crossed Over To The Dark Side
« on: July 07, 2011, 10:06:54 AM »
I finally did it yesterday.  After a couple of years hearing from the lovers of "Combat Tupperware", I decided to see what all the fuss was about.  So yesterday I took a Glock 22 to the range and put about 50 rounds through it. 

It's an ok gun, I suppose, lightweight and accurate, to be sure, but I'm still waiting to see what all the fuss is about.

I won't be running right out to buy one, but hey, at least I gave it a shot.  I'm thinking maybe another 1911.....this time a compact version in 9mm.



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Re: I Briefly Crossed Over To The Dark Side
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2011, 10:10:27 AM »
Most of the fuss seems to be based on the fact that while they are "OK" as far as accuracy, and totally lacking in the looks dept, they go bang every time and it's damned hard to break one.

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Re: I Briefly Crossed Over To The Dark Side
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2011, 10:11:38 AM »
Most of the fuss seems to be based on the fact that while they are "OK" as far as accuracy, and totally lacking in the looks dept, they go bang every time and it's damned hard to break one.

Except for the "totally lacking in the looks dept", it sounds like you just described the 1911.
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Re: I Briefly Crossed Over To The Dark Side
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2011, 10:13:31 AM »
But you have to CLEAN a 1911 once in a while.

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Re: I Briefly Crossed Over To The Dark Side
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2011, 10:15:40 AM »
But you have to CLEAN a 1911 once in a while.

So you're saying that the Glock is the handgun equivalent of the AK47?  ;D
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Re: I Briefly Crossed Over To The Dark Side
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Re: I Briefly Crossed Over To The Dark Side
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2011, 10:26:36 AM »
So you're saying that the Glock is the handgun equivalent of the AK47?  ;D
Yep, and about a billion of those were sold. The Glock and the AK are chimpanzee simple, and that is what I want in an SD gun.
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Re: I Briefly Crossed Over To The Dark Side
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2011, 12:00:05 PM »
Yep, and about a billion of those were sold. The Glock and the AK are chimpanzee simple, and that is what I want in an SD gun.
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Speaking of which, FQ (who voted... and spent all morning looking at a sweaty Latina), I would never have said that, but as long as you brought the self referencing up . . . . .  ;D

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Re: I Briefly Crossed Over To The Dark Side
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2011, 12:21:48 PM »
That's why Gabe Suarez bases his combat training around the Glock and the AK.
They are butt simple and nearly unbreakable.
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Re: I Briefly Crossed Over To The Dark Side
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2011, 01:06:31 PM »
Speaking of which, FQ (who voted... and spent all morning looking at a sweaty Latina), I would never have said that, but as long as you brought the self referencing up . . . . .  ;D

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Re: I Briefly Crossed Over To The Dark Side
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2011, 02:24:49 PM »
I became a 1911 believer after reading Jeff Cooper's Cooper on Handguns.  

However, even Col. Cooper noted a few faults with the design.  

One was that it had too many safeties and he recommended pinning the grip safety so it was always disengaged.

Another was a list of mods he felt would improve it's reliability....  i.e enlarging the ejection port, and others.

Another was weight.

I don't remember Col. Cooper ever criticizing the 1911 as being short on capacity, and I don't remember his recommending a mag extension to gain another round, but I don't remember him ever expressing the belief that having 14 rounds of .45 ACP on tap was a bad thing either.

Well, I am not quite, by a large measure, as competent a shooter as the Col., so the extra capacity is more important.  The reduced weight is also a nice thing, and boring reliability is a major plus, as are fewer safeties with which to fiddle.

All taken into account, I saw the Glock as an improvement on the 1911, in all aspects except appearance, for a SD sidearm.

I even jumped on one of the first Para Ordinance replacement frames for my Series 70, for the lighter weight and increased capacity, but reliability was so poor, I scrapped it.  

The Glock came along and did it right....  

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