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Re: Soldier who lost hand receives Medal of Honor
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2011, 02:53:18 PM »
We would still need the IRS, they will never go away.
Simply because, no matter how you raise the money, there has to be an organization to actually handle receiving, collecting and enforcing .
The way it's supposed to work, the Internal Revenue Service collects taxes, and other money owed inside the country (internally ), while duties, tariffs, and import taxes and fees from outside the country coming through the ports, (external revenue ) was collected by Customs.
That's why they are separate branches of the Treasury Dept.

Makes sense, and that's fine, but there would be no need for them to be the bloated monstrosity they have become.
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Re: Soldier who lost hand receives Medal of Honor
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2011, 03:08:10 PM »
Could say that about the entire Govt.

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Re: Soldier who lost hand receives Medal of Honor
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2011, 08:03:27 PM »
"Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered, those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid. Thus the wise win before they fight, while the ignorant fight to win."

As a civilian,...I view the MOH individual actions as extraordinary. What I have noticed from all MOH accounts, is how humble all of them are.

Without teleprompters, pomp or circumstance, they state, " I am merely carrying this Medal, for those not here today."

That is an amazing trait. An amazing feat,...and worthy of this countries thanks.

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"I think it would be a nifty idea to remit all taxes to holders of the Congressional Medal of Honor. This would cost the government practically nothing, and it would show that at least some of us are serious about our salutes on Veteran's Day."
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Re: Soldier who lost hand receives Medal of Honor
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2011, 10:06:57 PM »
I think you can extend that to anyone with a purple heart and say the same.
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Re: Soldier who lost hand receives Medal of Honor
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2011, 06:48:42 AM »
I think you can extend that to anyone with a purple heart and say the same.
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John Kerry has several Purple Hearts.  I wouldn't include him.  And being awarded a Purple Heart simply is not the same as the MOH.  For a Purple Heart, you just have to take damage.  You could be asleep, get hit, knocked unconscious, wake up in the field hospital and not remember a thing about the event.

The thing about MOH holders is that they did something, and it was an act going beyond their own personal safety.  While it is, no doubt, driven to also save themselves, it also includes acts that are above what is expected by "normal" grunt behavior.

Those who earn the MOH have found it in themselves to go beyond duty to preserve themselves, their comrades, and perhaps the cause for which they are fighting.  There is no thought of self glory (as I believe it was in Kerry's awards).  These folks put the lives of their mates and their unit above their own life.  And they only felt it was their duty.   It is no wonder that they are humble.  

Don't mean to take anything away from those who hold a Purple Heart, but the standards are just not the same.
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Re: Soldier who lost hand receives Medal of Honor
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Re: Soldier who lost hand receives Medal of Honor
« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2011, 07:40:54 AM »
My Dad was awarded a Purple Heart, and I agree with Solus.
There are those self promoters who get Purple Hearts for trivial, or even self inflicted injuries, even the most deserved are for making a mistake, being in the wrong spot at the wrong time, or just plain bad luck. The initiative is in the hands of the enemy in that they have to shoot at you, or place the mine, bomb, or boobytrap.
The CMOH is awarded for for actions intentionally taken by the recipient on his own initiative.

( Is my meaning clear ? The above is the best phrasing I can come up with, but it doesn't read quite right to me.  )

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Re: Soldier who lost hand receives Medal of Honor
« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2011, 09:02:37 AM »
Yes Tom your meaning was clear. Very well said. +1







WTF :o Did I just agree with Tom B. It's going to be one of those days. I need to add something to my coffee and calm  my nerves. ;)

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Re: Soldier who lost hand receives Medal of Honor
« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2011, 09:35:49 AM »
 Better get a lotto ticket  ;D

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Re: Soldier who lost hand receives Medal of Honor
« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2011, 10:01:11 AM »
Thank SFC Perty for your incredible service. I dont know if you will ever see any of this, but you make me proud to be American.
Did we win???

 

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