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Re: Very bad police encounter in Canton Ohio
« Reply #60 on: November 12, 2011, 03:45:22 PM »

you can have the worst day of your life and still be professional too your custmers.

Exactly my point.

So is there a material difference between a lethal threat from "baggy pants" and an errant uniform?
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Re: Very bad police encounter in Canton Ohio
« Reply #61 on: November 12, 2011, 04:28:52 PM »
I believe in the golden rule, "If their trying to shoot me, I'm trying to shoot them first ", and I don't care where their paycheck comes from.

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Re: Very bad police encounter in Canton Ohio
« Reply #62 on: January 12, 2012, 01:18:31 PM »
Took awhile, but it looks like Justice prevailed.....at least until the decision is appealed.

http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/8158

Bill Adams, president of the Canton Police Patrolmen's Association, the union that represents Patrolman Daniel Harless, confirmed that city Safety Director Thomas Ream ruled that Harless is no longer a member of the city’s police force.

Ream issued a three-page ruling dated Tuesday.

"It is quite clear that (Harless') actions represented a pattern of behavior where inappropriate verbal abuse and threats of death or great bodily harm of the various complainants occurred,” Ream wrote.

"This escalating pattern of potentially dangerous behavior cannot be justified or excused and clearly illustrates the seriousness of the departmental infractions."
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Re: Very bad police encounter in Canton Ohio
« Reply #63 on: January 16, 2012, 10:04:54 AM »
Took awhile, but it looks like Justice prevailed.....at least until the decision is appealed.

"It is quite clear that (Harless') actions represented a pattern of behavior where inappropriate verbal abuse and threats of death or great bodily harm of the various complainants occurred,” Ream wrote.

"This escalating pattern of potentially dangerous behavior cannot be justified or excused and clearly illustrates the seriousness of the departmental infractions."

I'd like to applaud but I can't, why did it take this long?  Officer Azzhat could have ended someone's life in 2 seconds but it takes 6 months after NATIONAL attention to fire his badge heavy butt?  Do we blame the unions or ... nevermind there is noone else to blame other than the unions.
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Re: Very bad police encounter in Canton Ohio
« Reply #64 on: January 16, 2012, 12:53:07 PM »
I'd like to applaud but I can't, why did it take this long?  Officer Azzhat could have ended someone's life in 2 seconds but it takes 6 months after NATIONAL attention to fire his badge heavy butt?  Do we blame the unions or ... nevermind there is noone else to blame other than the unions.

As much as I bad mouth Unions I think this had to go through court before they could take action and the case wasn't heard until last month.

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Re: Very bad police encounter in Canton Ohio
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Re: Very bad police encounter in Canton Ohio
« Reply #65 on: January 16, 2012, 12:59:45 PM »
As much as I bad mouth Unions I think this had to go through court before they could take action and the case wasn't heard until last month.

The union did everything they could to drag it out...conflicting schedules, medical postponements, anything possible...
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Re: Very bad police encounter in Canton Ohio
« Reply #66 on: January 16, 2012, 05:27:41 PM »
The union did everything they could to drag it out...conflicting schedules, medical postponements, anything possible...

And according to a report a day or 2 ago, the union is now filing to get the guy's job back, cuz, ya see, all of a sudden he has this PTSD thing and under ADA the city can't fire him after all.  :o  ::)  >:(
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Re: Very bad police encounter in Canton Ohio
« Reply #67 on: January 16, 2012, 07:23:32 PM »
And we wonder why more and more people don't trust cops anymore

The FOP is SO helpful. ::)
When seconds mean the difference between life and death, the police will be minutes away.

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Re: Very bad police encounter in Canton Ohio
« Reply #68 on: January 16, 2012, 10:59:56 PM »
There was a time when a union would have been first in line to fire this guy (after getting a severence package). The reason being he makes life harder for the rest of them. Screw up once? They'll be there. Screw up all the time, and publically? The've never heard of you. The electricians union is a key example. A a few house fires due to faulty wiring and they can't claim a premium for union labor due to "safety concerns" anymore. You'd think cops would see it the same way. God knows every officer in that department is probably taking all sorts of remedial PC courses, afraid to say "darn" to a suspect, and is afraid that if they ever use violence it will bite them on the ass,  all thanks to this guy. You'd think they'd hate him. Apparently not. ::)
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Re: Very bad police encounter in Canton Ohio
« Reply #69 on: January 17, 2012, 03:51:10 AM »
I see unions, the FOP specifically, in almost a "survival"mode.  Keeping this jacka$$ employed keeps a member and his money.  They are fighting to remain relevant in the current world since they were so successful in getting the workers better conditions in the past that they don't have anything else to accomplish than make money and try and get Dems elected.
When seconds mean the difference between life and death, the police will be minutes away.

You are either SOLVING the problem, or you ARE the problem.

 

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