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Re: XS Sights...
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2011, 07:33:23 PM »
I've got XS Big Dots on all my carry guns and hit with them what needs hitting especially for those defensive situations. And we've all seen the YouTube videos of Yeager making long range shots with his G19 w/ Big Dots.

During a training class, the instructor was not a proponent of the XS sights and had some Sevigny's on his Glock. I was "called out" to make the head shot at 20+ yds. on a target after he'd done it with his Glock. All of mine hit their mark as well and the point of his demonstration was lost after that. It's just a matter of knowing your point of impact.

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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2011, 08:22:35 PM »
I use them (big dot) on my Glock 30 and have no problems with them; I like them alot. I went through a Rob Pincus class shooting with them and I struggled shooting a 2" square at 18 yard (IIRC).  But then again I didn't have them long when I took the class and I hadn't practiced making very precise shots. Their main strength is to get on target fast allowing me to deliver "combat accurate" hits.

If you get a chance to pick up a set, I encourage you to do so; I think you'll be pleased.

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Re: XS Sights...
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2011, 08:40:19 PM »
2" square at about 18 yard (IIRC). 

That'd be kinda' tough for me regardless of the kind of sights!

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Re: XS Sights...
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2011, 11:08:07 PM »
Didn't know Trijicon was going to use the XS configuration.

What I'd like to see is LaserLyte and XS work together.

I'd not mind a XS rear sight with a built in Laser sight.

Loose a little bit in redundancy since if your rear sight gets knocked off the slide, you have no sight...but that hasn't happened to me very often.



Not exactly the same since the rear still uses 2 tubes in the 3 dot configuration but without any outlines. The front uses the big dot principal but in different color choices: http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product1.php?id=HDNS
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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2011, 06:37:19 AM »
Not exactly the same since the rear still uses 2 tubes in the 3 dot configuration but without any outlines. The front uses the big dot principal but in different color choices: http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product1.php?id=HDNS

I see.... 

Yes, the rear sight configuration is what really aids in speed....no balancing white space...just center on the line and shoot.
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Re: XS Sights...
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2011, 07:48:14 AM »
I see.... 

Yes, the rear sight configuration is what really aids in speed....no balancing white space...just center on the line and shoot.
I like the XS system better but the Trijicon HD is an easier transition for most people. It gets you to focus mostly on the front sight. The dot is big enough that it will fill the entire rear notch and you'd only notice the rear dots in a low light condition. It would be better for a precision shot from someone who hasn't or doesn't wish to train to shoot the XS style. I personally have no issues shooting all head shots with my big dots out to 25 yards. If I put the top edge of the dot to the top edge of the target and basically use the dot to cover the upper torso everything groups tightly into the head/neck no problem.
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Re: XS Sights...
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2011, 02:01:47 PM »
Just to through in my two cents...

I have the XS small dot site on my S&W1911 and I love them. While I can use the three dot set up as well as anyone my issue was always a sense of billboarding the target. I feel as though it takes far to much sight picture away from the threat to use three dots. I had a set of straight eights and while they were a marked improvement the dots were too small to be of any use.

Bare in mind I shoot my pistol with both eyes open so your results may differ but I like the fact the XS rear sight is grooved almost like a rifle sight. In my opinion this gives you the most viewing area from behind the gun you can get. I have no experience with the large dot but the small dot seems to naturally come to the center of the groove in the rear sight and then its just a matter of trigger control to be able to hit the target. I am by no means a world class shooter but I feel this gives me the best compromise between speed and accuracy that just the sights on the pistol can provide. So for what its worth I give them an A+ rating.
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« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2011, 02:07:31 PM »
The verdict seems to be love them or hate them, no middle ground.

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« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2011, 06:45:53 PM »
I got a cert. for XS sights and will have them installed on my carry Colt Officers ACP at a cost of $70 for installation (XS finally got back to me).  Will file a range report later.

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Re: XS Sights...
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2011, 11:55:54 PM »
Just to through in my two cents...

I have the XS small dot site on my S&W1911 and I love them. While I can use the three dot set up as well as anyone my issue was always a sense of billboarding the target. I feel as though it takes far to much sight picture away from the threat to use three dots. I had a set of straight eights and while they were a marked improvement the dots were too small to be of any use.

Bare in mind I shoot my pistol with both eyes open so your results may differ but I like the fact the XS rear sight is grooved almost like a rifle sight. In my opinion this gives you the most viewing area from behind the gun you can get. I have no experience with the large dot but the small dot seems to naturally come to the center of the groove in the rear sight and then its just a matter of trigger control to be able to hit the target. I am by no means a world class shooter but I feel this gives me the best compromise between speed and accuracy that just the sights on the pistol can provide. So for what its worth I give them an A+ rating.

I shoot both eyes open as well and on the few pistols I don't have the big dots on I pretty much only use the front sight unless I'm taking a very slow, deliberate aimed shot, like a head shot. I totally agree how the front sight always seems to just hit the notch perfectly. It seems like I can come up to target to shoot fast, front sight only for a center mass shot but if I slow it down and really check my aim I'm in perfect alignment already with the front to rear. To me the big dot is almost like shooting my open pistol with the red dot. I still think the big dot front is the best thing to ever happen to a j-frame or similar revolver.
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