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Will the debt ceiling be raised?

Yes, and we'll be right back where we are now next year.
5 (35.7%)
Yes, and we'll start hearing about Chinese influence in our government.
0 (0%)
Yes, and it'll be a good thing for us.
1 (7.1%)
Yes, and Obama will IMMEDIATELY announce more ways he'll be spending it.
5 (35.7%)
Yes, because Obama knows whats best for his people.
0 (0%)
Maybe not!
3 (21.4%)

Total Members Voted: 12


Author Topic: Here we are "down to the wire".  (Read 8234 times)

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Here we are "down to the wire".
« on: July 29, 2011, 10:58:24 AM »
Curious if your opinions have changed on this at all over the last few weeks.

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Re: Here we are "down to the wire".
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2011, 11:11:24 AM »
I keep hearing the talking heads ay "even if they pass the bill in both houses obama will just veto it" GOOD, Let him veto it, Then I'd like to see how he can blame Bush for all the problems as he has in the past.
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Re: Here we are "down to the wire".
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2011, 11:23:04 AM »
Problem we've got is that the GOP, with the exception of the Tea Party delegation, aren't serious about making things too difficult for the Dems.  

They realize that they will have to abide by what ever strong measures are taken to stave off our economic problems when they get back in the driver's seat.
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Re: Here we are "down to the wire".
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2011, 08:34:02 PM »
Do you think this bs that is happening well end up shooting the republicans  in the foot and end up loosing the support of there supporters.
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Re: Here we are "down to the wire".
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2011, 08:40:33 PM »
Do you think this bs that is happening well end up shooting the republicans  in the foot and end up loosing the support of there supporters.

RINOS? One can only hope. Tea Party, doubtful, the deal isn't even good enough to matter or be a cause of all this fuss.

The House passed it, with 22 RINOs and every damn dumbocrat voting against it. The Senate immediately shot it down.
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Re: Here we are "down to the wire".
« Reply #5 on: Today at 10:29:57 PM »

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Re: Here we are "down to the wire".
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2011, 08:45:06 PM »
This is a made up crises. The revenue to the Gov. is +/- $200 BILLION a month. Interest on the debt is +/- 29 BILLION. Suddenly, BHO is "willing to let" Aug. 2 pass for an extension to work it all out.....

But the MSM, and BHO, and Pelosi, all say the "world" will end, old people will starve, SS checks won't go out, the Military won't get paid,.....

Please,.....as I have posted before,....we are being played.

The Dems offer nothing but tax increases, and that's it. The Tea Party Reps. cannot be bribed, in the usual inside the beltway method, and the RINO's and career Republicans are realizing it.

It's called a reality slap.....With elections coming again in 18 months....We (the informed folk), are not forgetting, and we're pissed.

The low information voter, doesn't care.

This is all a big game, and WE THE PEOPLE, are the chumps.

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Re: Here we are "down to the wire".
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2011, 10:32:12 PM »
This is a made up crises. The revenue to the Gov. is +/- $200 BILLION a month. Interest on the debt is +/- 29 BILLION. Suddenly, BHO is "willing to let" Aug. 2 pass for an extension to work it all out.....

But the MSM, and BHO, and Pelosi, all say the "world" will end, old people will starve, SS checks won't go out, the Military won't get paid,.....

Please,.....as I have posted before,....we are being played.

The Dems offer nothing but tax increases, and that's it. The Tea Party Reps. cannot be bribed, in the usual inside the beltway method, and the RINO's and career Republicans are realizing it.

It's called a reality slap.....With elections coming again in 18 months....We (the informed folk), are not forgetting, and we're pissed.

The low information voter, doesn't care.

This is all a big game, and WE THE PEOPLE, are the chumps.


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Re: Here we are "down to the wire".
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2011, 07:18:08 AM »
Why the HELL would we increase the debt ceiling?!?

Let's look at this another way:

You and your spouse like the finer things in life.  New vehicles, nice house, everything that money can buy.  But you control yourself enough that you can BARELY make the minimum payments on your 12 or 13 credit cards.  Then something happens and your wife goes apeshit nuts buying high-end things that you DON'T need.  Suddenly, your cards are maxed out, your bank balance is $0, and the payments necessary to maintain your lifestyle exceed your income.

Do you:
A)  Call the credit card company and demand an increase in your credit limit, and demand that your boss increase your salary to a level that WILL allow you to maintain your lifestyle?

OR

B)  Cut up the damn credit cards, sell off the luxuries you've acquired, and alter your lifestyle so that you can support it on what you make?



To me, this is a no-brainer.  Perhaps that's why the no-brain crowd in Washington, and the voters they buy with OUR money, can't get a grasp of the concept.
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Re: Here we are "down to the wire".
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2011, 07:37:02 AM »
“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.” (Congressional Record, p. S2237 [March 2006])

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Re: Here we are "down to the wire".
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2011, 07:53:33 AM »


Maybe I haven't been clear 'bout this, but:







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