Author Topic: 148th MVA Ordnance - WWII  (Read 3496 times)

tombogan03884

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Re: 148th MVA Ordnance - WWII
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2011, 11:00:02 AM »
You actually quoted Bryan's "Cross of Gold" speech ?  He was a relative non entity who gave one well received speech, and repeated it frequently for the rest of his dead end career. "He could have been a (DEM ! ) contender", but the recognition that his idea's were inherently flawed left him as "just a bum".
Why not Obama's "Spread the Wealth" speech as well ? They are both BS
Your reference to the existence or not of the USSR underlines your total ignorance of the true nature of the "Cold War", and the communist threat. Over the years many nations threw off the yoke of communist oppression with out fundamentally changing the nature of the threat.
Marxist/socialist/communist philosophy was not native to Russia, it originated in Germany, which never voluntarily accepted it so the rise or fall of communism in Russia is just as irrelevant to the clash of ideologies as it was in Jamaica.
The conflict is between the Capitalist system which has worked for hundreds of years when not meddled with by politicians, and the Marxist/socialist utopian ideology which is based on world economic domination, and has never worked any where.
"Workers of the World, Unite" Ring any bells ?
After the Revolution  Lenin founded the "Communist International" (AKA "ComIntern" ) with the specific goal of spreading the Marxist ideology through out the nations of the world, places like Germany ( Hitler condemned the Jews and who else ? ), Spain, (Italy and Germany intervened in the Civil war to oppose who ? )  England, (Who was it recruiting spies at Cambridge in the 30's ? )
The West was warned of this as early as the late 20's and early 30's by, among others, Gen Walter Krivtsky, who was assassinated in Washington.
In later years the Soviets founded what became "Patrice Lumamba University" for the purpose of indoctrinating and training promising students from less developed nations, (imagine that ! Using higher education to promote subversion ! ) such as French Indochina, Malaya, Cuba, Angola, etc etc.
The Soviets never needed or intended to invade the West, they just needed to distract Western Democracies from the Quislingesqe rot of their national Communist/socialist organizations. Why else would they pour billions of rubles into a money pit like Cuba ? Why else would they finance national communist parties, It is documented that the CPUSA received +$3 mil every year until the fall of the USSR.
You , FQ, are an uninformed tool. You are what Lenin called a useful idiot.
You are exactly the type of person that these people you help cover for , shot first. Because if you are dumb enough to fall for their BS, you are dumb enough to believe any one else who comes along.

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Re: 148th MVA Ordnance - WWII
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2011, 11:09:02 AM »
The point of all of this is not to deny that the communist threat wasn't real. It is however to point out that we screwed up ourselves. We moved away from the market to a welfare state. We ignored the founders and set off on a course of empire and interventionism. We moved to a fiat currency. We went massively into debt. And we didn't need some puppet master pulling the strings for an anti-american agenda behind the scenes to do it. We just screwed up. There is no evil plot here, just a lot of idiots. This is what irritates me about conspiracy theories. They are a way to avoid responsibility. "Real Americans would never do that. Its those back stabbing (insert group here). BS. We would so do that. We can be as greedy, shortsighted, lazy and arrogant as anyone else and we reap the consequences of it like every other great power that has ever existed. The good news is that our problems are self created we can solve them. The bad news is we have to admit that fact and change our behavior for it to work.
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tombogan03884

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Re: 148th MVA Ordnance - WWII
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2011, 11:24:46 AM »
The point of all of this is not to deny that the communist threat wasn't real. It is however to point out that we screwed up ourselves. We moved away from the market to a welfare state. We ignored the founders and set off on a course of empire and interventionism. We moved to a fiat currency. And we didn't need some puppet master pulling the strings for an anti-american agenda behind the scenes to do it. We just screwed up. There is no evil plot here, just a lot of idiots.
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Who do you think nudged things in the direction they went ? Why didn't they go a different direction ?
The Post WWI "Frankfort School" theorists maintained that the method to overthrow Capitalism was to undermine it from with in, Break down Morality, the family, and patriotism. Divide populations into subgroups that could be set at each others throats to cause further dissension, encourage the growth of labor unions to take control of the actual production of wealth, therefore taking over the economies of targeted nations, infiltrate the education system to introduce "progressive" influences at the youngest possible age.
Of course none of that has occurred here, has it ?
Path is right about you, you are a fake Libertarian, and every time you go on about how you were in the ROTC I'm reminded that all the important members of the John Walker ring were active duty.

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« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2011, 11:41:02 AM »
Wrong Tom, being a libertarian means taking responsibility. Something you seem unwilling to do. You want to blame our problems on others (and granted there were and are others that helped worsen them). But at the end of the day we have been our own worst enemy and we aren't going to get better if we think we can finger point our way out of this mess. BO or W as the enemy? Its al a commie plot or Soros, or guys in black helicopters? Its a joke. We allowed it  to happen. That has to change and it won't if we blame some "them" for our larger problem and don't realize that most of it is us. Cut spending, change our FP, rebuild our industry and wean ourself off cheap imports, secure the borders and wean ourselves off cheap labor. These are hard calls and they won't happen unless we face up to needing to do them. That won't happen if we are distracted by some witch hunt from you or your counterparts on Huff Po..
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Re: 148th MVA Ordnance - WWII
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2011, 11:47:54 AM »
Wrong Tom, being a libertarian means taking responsibility. Something you seem unwilling to do. You want to blame our problems on others (and granted there were and are others that helped worsen them). But at the end of the day we have been our own worst enemy and we aren't going to get better if we think we can finger point our way out of this mess. BO or W as the enemy? Its al a commie plot or Soros, or guys in black helicopters? Its a joke. We allowed it  to happen. That has to change and it won't if we blame some "them" for our larger problem and don't realize that most of it is us. Cut spending, change our FP, rebuild our industry and wean ourself off cheap imports, secure the borders and wean ourselves off cheap labor.
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Don't look at me tool, I've been opposing this crap since the 60's.
It was gullible, college educated white guilt chumps like you that went along with it, "for the children".

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