'killing hostages is now part of the rules'

[deepwater]

http://gcaptain.com/isaf-warning-letter-killing?28504

This Warning Notice, published by the International Sailing Federation (ISAF), is intended for Yacht Skippers considering a passage through the Gulf of Aden, its approaches and the Indian Ocean north of 12 degrees south and west of 78 degrees east. It is the third such notice to be published on this subject and reflects the latest situation as at June 2011.

It has been prepared by a Working Party staffed by experienced small boat sailors representing the following organisations: the Royal Yachting Association, the Cruising Association; the Ocean Cruising Club; the Royal Cruising Club and the World Cruising Club. The Working Party has drawn on information and advice provided by the Maritime Security Centre – Horn of Africa (MSCHOA), an initiative established by EU NAVFOR (EU naval force) Operation.

Piracy has become big business and the pirates, originally Somali fishermen no longer able to earn a livelihood from fishing, now include criminal elements from many nations.

Attacks have increased in numbers and the area affected has increased as pirate tactics have evolved. Year on year the numbers of attacks are up some 90% from 2010 to 2011.

However, as deterrence and defensive measures on merchant shipping improves, the success rate has reduced to about 1 in 5, particularly in the Gulf of Aden (GoA). This has caused the pirates to adapt their methods of operation and to range widely over the Somali Basin and far into the Indian Ocean, reaching as far south as the northern end of the Mozambique Channel. More recently activity has also been reported in the southern end of the Red Sea/Bab Al Mandeb area.

check out the map in the post too. a lot of attacks...


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[fightingquaker13]

And we are bombing Libya rather than pirate strongholds because.........
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[deepwater]

And we are bombing Libya rather than pirate strongholds because.........
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because we are sending them food.. duh.. don't you read the news... they are starving there. so now we send food grain (does this sound familiar?) and soon the pirates will turn on their own to control the grain and so control the people. (again?) seems like we should make them clean house before expecting help from those they are cornholing.

Oh, we're bombing Libya because.... uh... well.... I don't know..

[tombogan03884]

In Libya we are engaged in a 2 week exercise  (ETA, I realize that it has been 5 months with absolutely nothing accomplished )  to aid NATO because the UN said we should bomb our allies in the existing Govt. We are feeding Somali's because the UN said we should feed our foes who have not been able to feed them selves during recorded history.
Also, Obama believes that charity begins at home.

[fightingquaker13]

we should feed our foes who have not been able to feed them selves during recorded history.

To quote the late great Sam Kinnison on neighboring Ethiopia......
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[twyacht]

One of best comedians ever. And he's right.

Somalia should have been carpet bombed from 42,000 feet, long ago.

[tombogan03884]

One of best comedians ever. And he's right.

Somalia should have been carpet bombed from 42,000 feet, long ago.

Why ?
All it would do is scare the camels and shift the sand. Bombing Somalia is even more pointless and wasteful than bombing Afghanistan.
There are not even any mountains to level, just desert, and mud brick villages of starving people.
Sam is right. Sending these people food is cruel. There is no way in hell anything will ever grow there, nothing ever has grown there.
Sending food just makes the population slaves to who ever controls the aid.
Minus the benefit of having anything to do.

[twyacht]

Why ?

Just the coastal villages where the pirates enjoy their bounty... and harbor terrorist training camps,.....UBL was there for a time,...I'm sure the next generation is still in that rat infested sh**hole,....

even the 4 legged rats are given a bad rap.

[fightingquaker13]

Beg to differ Tom, but if you bomb the pirate's ports they will quicly lose their support. Simply come in from the air and sink every vessel and bomb the hell out of the waterfron,t and you will get the point across. As far as the hostages? Have a nice memorial service for them. Accept that they will be killed, just make sure the pirates know that the price of doing business is death and they will find a new line of work. No more hostages and the civilized world will not have to mark a vital seaway off as being out of bounds because of some barbarians.
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[tombogan03884]

Mud huts aren't the problem. The proper approach is the one employed by the Soviets in Afghanistan, Saddam against the Kurds, and in Cambodia.
Invest the cost of one smart bomb into a good supply of nerve agent and you solve both, piracy and the famine, the mud houses will erode away in a couple decades and the greenies can have a pristine desert ecosystem to study.