I S - T H I S - T H E - L A R G E S T - D E B T - I N C R E A S E IN HISTORY?

[Rastus]

Be ye not deceived.  If you think this is a budget cut it's not.  This is really the largest debt increase in history.

Missed that?  Do us a favor and stop voting.

[Pathfinder]

Our .gov has to be the biggest criminal enterprise in human history.

[tt11758]

Our .gov has to be the biggest criminal enterprise in human history.

Tony Soprano could take a page from their book!!

[Badgersmilk]

"U.S. is "parasite" on global economy"

http://news.yahoo.com/putin-says-u-parasite-global-economy-191447751.html


It hurts to much, I refuse to click your "Yes" button!   

[tombogan03884]

They increased the debt limit by enough to cover the total cost to both sides of every war in American history

[Sponsor]

[fightingquaker13]

They increased the debt limit by enough to cover the total cost to both sides of every war in American history

Does this mean I can redeem the Confederate money my family has been saving? (and I'm not joking about that).
FQ13

[tombogan03884]

Does this mean I can redeem the Confederate money my family has been saving? (and I'm not joking about that).
FQ13

14th Amendment FQ ;

Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868. Note History

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned . But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

[Bic]

Our .gov has to be the biggest criminal enterprise in human history.

Below is part of post from my favourite correspondent on another board, he is very close to some of these politicians.


1. There was significant concern over what Obama would do if we hit the debt limit without a deal. Yes, responsible people would pay bondholders first, entitlements & military next, and work their way down to leaving nonessential govt functions unfunded. But there was no confidence that Obama would do that. In fact, his public statements for the GOP not to call his bluff could be interpreted as a thinly veiled threat that he would, in fact, collapse the whole thing just to create a bigger crisis.

MP

[tombogan03884]

Below is part of post from my favourite correspondent on another board, he is very close to some of these politicians.


1. There was significant concern over what Obama would do if we hit the debt limit without a deal. Yes, responsible people would pay bondholders first, entitlements & military next, and work their way down to leaving nonessential govt functions unfunded. But there was no confidence that Obama would do that. In fact, his public statements for the GOP not to call his bluff could be interpreted as a thinly veiled threat that he would, in fact, collapse the whole thing just to create a bigger crisis.

MP

We should have called the bluff.
Instead we have yet another short term solution that does nothing to address the long term problem.
The "worst case" consequences have not been prevented, they have only been postponed for a short time.

[fightingquaker13]

14th Amendment FQ ;

Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868. Note History

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned . But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

DOH! Everybody else is getting paid off. I was just hoping..... Guess I'll have to tell them its time to get rid of it.
FQ13