Is this a backdoor to rigging elections?

[JC5123]

http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/08/08/will-electoral-college-become-thing-past



The Electoral College could be inching closer to extermination as California Gov. Jerry Brown signed a bill Monday that would award the state's 55 electoral votes to the presidential candidate who wins the national popular vote.

The bill would take effect only if the states that hold a majority of the 538 electoral votes approve similar legislation. With California's addition, that total now stands at 132, almost 49 percent of the 270 needed.

Under the electoral college, people don't actually vote for president. They vote for electors, who then vote for president. It was developed as a compromise between those who wanted Congress to elect the president and those who wanted the president elected by popular vote.

California Assemblyman Democrat Jerry Hill, who introduced the bill, said the change would make California more relevant in presidential elections by forcing candidates to campaign in the state.

Former Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger twice vetoed previous versions of the bill. At the time, Schwarzenegger said he did not want California's electoral votes awarded to a candidate a majority of the state had not supported.

Seven states and the District of Columbia have passed similar bills.

The last person to win the presidency despite losing the popular vote was George W. Bush in 2000.

Read more: http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/08/08/will-electoral-college-become-thing-past#ixzz1UZczsZ4R


Typical Dem idea. Ever since Gore lost in 2000.

[Pathfinder]

Typical Dem idea. Ever since Gore lost in 2000.

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I remember Hitlery spouting off back in 2000 about how they needed a Constitutional Amendment to eliminate the Electoral College after they almost stole Florida's results. Seems they figured out it would never pass, so the libtards find - as always - backdoor methods to pervert and subvert the US Constitution. 

<sniff> Wait, what's that I smell? It smells like, . . . . like . . . . a Soros!             

We.
Are.
At.
War.
People!!!

[fightingquaker13]

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I remember Hitlery spouting off back in 2000 about how they needed a Constitutional Amendment to eliminate the Electoral College after they almost stole Florida's results. Seems they figured out it would never pass, so the libtards find - as always - backdoor methods to pervert and subvert the US Constitution. 

<sniff> Wait, what's that I smell? It smells like, . . . . like . . . . a Soros!             

We.
Are.
At.
War.
People!!!

Take a Midol Path. Seriously, If Bush v Gore had been reversed can you look me or even yourself in the eye and say the GOP wouldn't have done the same damn thing? Particularly when upstanding citizens like Karl Rove and Tom Delay were at the Helm? Please, don't even pretend there was any high ground.

What is actually relevant is this. Is this a good idea? Because here's the thing, it will effect both parties equally. Its like the designated hitter rule. I think its a disaster, but not because it hurts my team. That can change on any given Sunday. Me, I like the electoral college because it means folks need to pay attention to the small states and it reinforces federalism. We are a FEDERAL republic, not just a collection of voters. States do matter. So I say BS on Brown's plan, but please spare me the hypocritical morality play Path.
FQ13

[tombogan03884]

The process of electing the president is laid out in the Constitution.
If the electoral college pisses off the Democraps it must be a good thing.

Of course FQ would defend them.
He even thinks Stewart Smalley, (or whatever his name is ) won fair and square.

[Pathfinder]

Take a Midol Path. Seriously, If Bush v Gore had been reversed can you look me or even yourself in the eye and say the GOP wouldn't have done the same damn thing? Particularly when upstanding citizens like Karl Rove and Tom Delay were at the Helm? Please, don't even pretend there was any high ground.

What is actually relevant is this. Is this a good idea? Because here's the thing, it will effect both parties equally. Its like the designated hitter rule. I think its a disaster, but not because it hurts my team. That can change on any given Sunday. Me, I like the electoral college because it means folks need to pay attention to the small states and it reinforces federalism. We are a FEDERAL republic, not just a collection of voters. States do matter. So I say BS on Brown's plan, but please spare me the hypocritical morality play Path.
FQ13

Let's see, Tool, the Constitution is all but ignored, the Bill of Rights has been emasculated, the economy is trashed, the libtards continue to use (as do you BTW) Alinsky's rule to pervert everything they touch, this administration - like others before it - rules by Imperial edict and YOU think I need a Midol (that's the Alinsky part, since you sometimes have trouble telling).

And what would be an FQ post without an egregious error - this is not Brown's plan, he simply signed the bill into law after Ahnold refused to - repeatedly. And there are 7 other states plus DC who have already passed similar bills into law.

I stand by my assertion that our rights, our liberties and our well-being are being actively and intentionally trashed. You, on the other hand, just keep drinking the kool-aid, Tool, drink deep!

[Sponsor]

[twyacht]

States should also revert back to appointing Senators, with term limits....

We allowed ourselves to be so bent over...

[tombogan03884]

e hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new guards for their future security — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. — The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.
Stimulus
Obamacare
Philadelphia Black Panthers
Az. illegal immigrant law
Nationalizing GM and banks
Tax and spend
Gun Runner
Libya
Gulf Drilling ban
2Bn to Brazil so THEY can drill in the Gulf
Screw all our friends, apologize or aid all our foes

Wake up America

[Rastus]

Now, now Tom...you don't have to be so uptight.  You are only going to alienate people.   

You might actually cause someone to confront themselves and realize they are full of dog$hit poo poo when they espouse liberal-socialist crap.

Of course the exit on rationale thinking is to for a liberal-socialist to say they love the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, etc... and they may really think they do because then that gives liberals a pass to say it means whatever they want it to mean...nevermind the words.  It's the icon they love...not the ideals.

Liberals hate the ideals and love the perverted icon.  There will never be a meeting of the minds. 

[fightingquaker13]

Let's see, Tool, the Constitution is all but ignored, the Bill of Rights has been emasculated, the economy is trashed, the libtards continue to use (as do you BTW) Alinsky's rule to pervert everything they touch, this administration - like others before it - rules by Imperial edict and YOU think I need a Midol (that's the Alinsky part, since you sometimes have trouble telling).

And what would be an FQ post without an egregious error - this is not Brown's plan, he simply signed the bill into law after Ahnold refused to - repeatedly. And there are 7 other states plus DC who have already passed similar bills into law.

I stand by my assertion that our rights, our liberties and our well-being are being actively and intentionally trashed. You, on the other hand, just keep drinking the kool-aid, Tool, drink deep!

Here's a question. Is being called a tool in red letters worse than being called one in black ones?
Its kind of strange to be insulted by someone you are trying to agree with. My point Path is that both parties are playing for keeps. To them, its not about the rules of the game, but rather about who wins or loses. It is our job as citizens to remind them that they are wrong. This is why your naive assertion that Dems are evil and the GOP is virtuous annoyed me. Our job, out of pure self defense is to maintain the rules of the game because, as the Founders argued, no one can be trusted. But if the rules are well written, those you can rely on. The durability of the Constitution proves this. That was the point Path, and I don't think I need to be called a tool for reminding you of that home truth.
FQ13 who thinks that good fences (or good rules) make for good neighbors.

[tombogan03884]

The Democratic party  has never been anything but a collection of corrupt scumbags preying on idiots.
It has, since the 30's at least, been infiltrated to the point of absorption by communists and socialists with the calculated objective of undermining our society with the aim of destroying America.