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Coburn was on KAFQ radio this morning.  He said he did not care what the media or anyone thought about his "packing" comment.  He seemed to be expressing he's finished trying to work with lawmakers who as he said, "...will not do the right thing."  He also said if we don't fix the economy very soon we're sunk in 16 months...in July 2012 he said a big chunk of the debt was scheduled for financing and that is going to be when things really start to change..out of both panic and necessity.  I take the economic comments to mean we pretty much maintain this crummy economy through early summer...then it get's bad....I guess if one were a prepper that could be your timeline.

I've always berated Coburn for working to hard to get agreement...i.e. bending over backwards...with other lawmakers and for being naive.  I think he's thrown in the towel on getting along because he's so concerned with our pending economic demise.  I thinks he's about drawing lines in the sand and picking sides now...something to ponder coming from a doctor who is at the highest level of government.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/18/coburn-its-good-thing-cant-pack-gun-on-senate-floor/?test=latestnews

From Fox News below:
Sen. Tom Coburn, expressed frustration with his fellow lawmakers this week, describing them as "a class of career elitists" and "cowards,” and adding, "It's just a good thing I can't pack a gun on the Senate floor."

Coburn, R-Okla., reportedly made the comment at a Chamber of Commerce event in Oklahoma on Tuesday in which he blamed the nation's financial troubles on Congress-- a critique that deflects Republican attacks on President Obama.

But, he added, most U.S. lawmakers are good people with good intentions.

The remarks, reported by the Tulsa World, came just two weeks after Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., made an emotionally charged return to Congress for the first time after being shot in the head in January during an assassination attempt.

Responding to a man who claimed the president is trying to destroy the country, the newspaper reported that Coburn offered a mixed review of Obama, saying the president is "very bright" and loves his country, but his political philosophy is "goofy and wrong."

The president's "intent is not to destroy, his intent is to create dependency because it worked so well for him. As an African-American male" Obama received "tremendous advantage from a lot of these programs," Coburn reportedly said.

The comments are likely not meant to be malicious nor are they a surprise to those who know Coburn's style and demeanor. And they may not translate well in the East Coast. However, Coburn remains friends with the president, having served together in the Senate, and the two consult on the phone from time to time.

Presidential candidate and Texas Gov. Rick Perry, another southerner with a penchant for hard-scrabble rhetoric, also raised eyebrows Monday when he said Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke would be committing a "treasonous" act by printing more money to jump start the economy.

"If this guy prints more money between now and the election, I don't know what y'all would do to him in Iowa, but we would treat him pretty ugly down in Texas," he told voters in Iowa.
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Re: Coburn: 'It's a Good Thing I Can't Pack a Gun on the Senate Floor'
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2011, 08:32:22 PM »
Coburn was on KAFQ radio this morning.  He said he did not care what the media or anyone thought about his "packing" comment.  He seemed to be expressing he's finished trying to work with lawmakers who as he said, "...will not do the right thing."  He also said if we don't fix the economy very soon we're sunk in 16 months...in July 2012 he said a big chunk of the debt was scheduled for financing and that is going to be when things really start to change..out of both panic and necessity.  I take the economic comments to mean we pretty much maintain this crummy economy through early summer...then it get's bad....I guess if one were a prepper that could be your timeline.

2 thoughts - that ain't 16 months, that's 11. And, I think we know what our October Surprise will be for the election. It will just come a few months earlier than normal.

I've always berated Coburn for working to hard to get agreement...i.e. bending over backwards...with other lawmakers and for being naive.  I think he's thrown in the towel on getting along because he's so concerned with our pending economic demise.  I thinks he's about drawing lines in the sand and picking sides now...something to ponder coming from a doctor who is at the highest level of government.
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Responding to a man who claimed the president is trying to destroy the country, the newspaper reported that Coburn offered a mixed review of Obama, saying the president is "very bright" and loves his country, but his political philosophy is "goofy and wrong."

The president's "intent is not to destroy, his intent is to create dependency because it worked so well for him. As an African-American male" Obama received "tremendous advantage from a lot of these programs," Coburn reportedly said.

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Presidential candidate and Texas Gov. Rick Perry, another southerner with a penchant for hard-scrabble rhetoric, also raised eyebrows Monday when he said Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke would be committing a "treasonous" act by printing more money to jump start the economy.

Sounds like he is still pretty damn naive.

Perry at least sounds like he gets it.
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Re: Coburn: 'It's a Good Thing I Can't Pack a Gun on the Senate Floor'
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2011, 10:59:58 PM »
"Sen. Tom Coburn, expressed frustration with his fellow lawmakers this week, describing them as "a class of career elitists" and "cowards,” and adding, "It's just a good thing I can't pack a gun on the Senate floor."

So it isn't just me.  ;D

If he uses .357 or 45 I'll donate the ammo.

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Re: Coburn: 'It's a Good Thing I Can't Pack a Gun on the Senate Floor'
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2011, 01:41:55 AM »
I've yet to meet the metal detector that would pick up rope. Just sayin', ;D
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Re: Coburn: 'It's a Good Thing I Can't Pack a Gun on the Senate Floor'
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2011, 05:37:54 AM »
I've yet to meet the metal detector that would pick up rope. Just sayin', ;D
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Yeah, but the rope works too slow for one against a mob.  ;D  ;D  ;D
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Re: Coburn: 'It's a Good Thing I Can't Pack a Gun on the Senate Floor'
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2011, 05:43:27 AM »
Yeah, but the rope works too slow for one against a mob.  ;D  ;D  ;D
As with many other things these days Peg, when you want a job done fast and cheap, hire a Mexican. ;D
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Re: Coburn: 'It's a Good Thing I Can't Pack a Gun on the Senate Floor'
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2011, 05:46:36 AM »
You might be right...and props to the roper.....but I bet no one makes an IWB holster to carry that little joker concealed.   ;)   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Would you need a CCM permit also?


I guess you could just go with Mexican carry.
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Re: Coburn: 'It's a Good Thing I Can't Pack a Gun on the Senate Floor'
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2011, 06:16:03 AM »
2 thoughts - that ain't 16 months, that's 11. And, I think we know what our October Surprise will be for the election. It will just come a few months earlier than normal.

Sounds like he is still pretty damn naive.

Perry at least sounds like he gets it.

July is when the finance/refinance thing happens and the 16 is the new year.  So we're under a "budget" for 2012 when the debt thing hits, then we have elections.  So this thing is also rigged to get them "safely" past the elections...but in Coburn's mind they are whistling past the graveyard mid-year next year and if that skates for them then it's probably going to get them past elections but not further into the new year where it will finally and conclusively unravel.  I needed to add some explanation to that.

Yeah, still a bit naive but he's "joined" the club now.  Rome wasn't built in a day.  I'm still watching for him to improve.

Perry is a Bilderberger...we'll see how much Bilderberger sticks on him.  The Bush/Perry antaganism might be more a Skull & Crossbones elitist looking down on an Aggie thing as opposed to a RINO looking down on a conservative....my jury is still out on whether Perry is the real deal or not.   I hear what he says and it sounds good...I bet M25Operator could help enlighten us. 
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Re: Coburn: 'It's a Good Thing I Can't Pack a Gun on the Senate Floor'
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2011, 06:50:00 AM »
July is when the finance/refinance thing happens and the 16 is the new year.  So we're under a "budget" for 2012 when the debt thing hits, then we have elections.  So this thing is also rigged to get them "safely" past the elections...but in Coburn's mind they are whistling past the graveyard mid-year next year and if that skates for them then it's probably going to get them past elections but not further into the new year where it will finally and conclusively unravel.  I needed to add some explanation to that.

I get the whole budget thing, and yeah, it has been pretty obvious to some of us peons serfs citizens that everything that has transpired over the past 3 years (paying for the bailouts, obanationcare, et al.) has been designed to be soft until 2013. I still get strange looks when I say that to people, even people who are buying gold and silver.

Coburn may be coming around, but quite bluntly and with sad but heartfelt honestly, there is nothing he - or you and I - can do at this point. The damage is done, the sheeple are well and properly trained to bleat on command. It is going to be bad, ugly, and nasty. And the .gov will use every event to continue its downhill snowball of taking rights, liberties and freedoms away as we sink into 3rd world status.

The nice (? ? ? ) thing about people like bho, Rahmiekins, et al., is that they tell you exactly what they are doing. bho did all throught he election and the compliant press helped drive the message home is a positve and wonderful way. Rahm was the one who publicly announced that they were never going to let a "crisis" pass without effecting some new restraints. Why do you think Progressive Insurance is named that? The founder/owner tells you up front where his considerable profits were going to go. All you need do is look, listen, and hardest of all, independently think, and the BGs will tell you exactly what they are going to do to you.

Even if the election of 2012 removes bho and elects nothing but Tea Party people, nothing will change. Everyone here knows my opinion that all of the Presidents since JFK have done their share to sell us out, and that bho was put where he is to drive the final nails in our coffin. The press will destroy everyone who tries to change things, and the education machine will continue to grind out good little thoughtless NWO-ers. I am reminded of the transition period of the Roman Republic to the Roman Empire - those longing for the Republic were openly ridiculed and reviled as fools. And fairly quickly, returning to the Republic became a functional impossibility. Sounds familiar.  :'(

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Re: Coburn: 'It's a Good Thing I Can't Pack a Gun on the Senate Floor'
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2011, 10:07:32 AM »
Meanwhile, here in America we are still fighting to keep our 2A rights.

http://trib.com/news/local/casper/article_ac2b0f30-61fe-5816-8cdd-1cbc2bbed5f0.html

Casper’s proposed ordinance banning the open carry of firearms at public meetings is an issue that needs to be addressed, according to the city’s mayor.

“It’s truly a discussion that needs to be had,” said Mayor Paul Bertoglio. “A firearm, for many, is intimidating. They really have no place in a public meeting.”

State law currently prohibits individuals from carrying concealed weapons into any meeting of a governmental entity. The city’s proposal, informally approved last week, would make it illegal for anyone to openly carry a weapon at any public meeting.

Bertoglio, who described himself as a member of the National Rifle Association, said he would prefer the state take the lead on the issue, rather than the city.

Though he said that he himself supported the city proposal, Bertoglio did not make a prediction on whether the council would end up voting in favor of it.

But three council members at last week’s meeting spoke about being intimidated by citizens at different times in their political careers. If all three of those council members and Bertoglio move to support the proposal, only one more council vote would be needed to approve the ban.

Officials for a handful of other cities in Wyoming said no such law exists in their towns.

City officials in Cheyenne, Gillette and Laramie said the discussion to enact a similar law has not taken place in their cities.

Calls to city officials in Jackson, Lander and Riverton were not returned.

Casper City Attorney Bill Luben said state law provides an exception to the state’s open carry law for cities, although the Wyoming Attorney General’s Office has held that the extent of the exception remains unclear.

The exception provides that cities may regulate any conduct which otherwise would disturb or jeopardize the public health, safety, peace or morality in any public or private place.

A call Friday afternoon to the Wyoming Attorney General’s Office was not returned.

Anthony Bouchard, executive director of the Wyoming Gun Owners Association, has said that the state does not provide for such a ban. If the proposal becomes law, the WGOA will sue the city, he said.

“State law pre-empts municipalities from making any law on that subject,” Bouchard said Saturday.

Bouchard said his organization fears enactment of a ban on weapons in the council chambers could lead to attempts to ban weapons in other locations as well. This “slippery slope” could lead to widespread efforts to restrict gun possession and make the average citizen less safe, he said.

“Criminals don’t ask for permission or obey rules or laws restricting them,” he said.

Bouchard dismissed the concerns voiced by some council members that they have been intimidated by people who may have disagreed with a position they have taken on an issue. “It looks like a manufactured ... fear,” he said. “I don’t think they have enough cases of it happening to have a legitimate case.”

The National Rifle Association did not respond to a request for comment.

Luben said he has not heard about any threats of a lawsuit but that court may be appropriate to decide the issue.

“If they [file a lawsuit], I guess they do, and I guess we’ll find out if we have the power to do the regulation or not,” Luben said.

Bertoglio said he would prefer the state resolve the issue, rather than the cities, but no one knows when or if the legislature would consider banning open carry at public meetings.

“The state has taken the lead on weapons; they need to take the lead on this,” he said.

Firearms are banned from the state Capitol building, Sen. Kit Jennings (R-Natrona) told council members last week when he lobbied against the Casper ban.

Since the proposal is an ordinance change, it must be approved at three formal council sessions, at least one of which will have a public hearing.

The first reading could come as soon as the city’s Sept. 6 formal session, according to the city manager’s office.

Read more: http://trib.com/news/local/casper/article_ac2b0f30-61fe-5816-8cdd-1cbc2bbed5f0.html#ixzz1VUGRu3J0
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