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Re: Picking up a new 1911... One problem
« Reply #70 on: December 31, 2020, 06:16:56 PM »
https://www.recovertactical.com/product/cc3p-grip-and-rail-system-for-the-1911/

I couldn't remember who made that. I've also seen a section of Picatinny rail for sale before that was machined to fit the dust cover. It could be attached by drilling and tapping a pair of holes to screw it on, or it could just be glued on with epoxy. If you don't mind refinishing your frame I don't see why it couldn't be silver soldered on too, but I wouldn't try it myself. I'd leave that to someone with a clue a pro.

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Re: Picking up a new 1911... One problem
« Reply #71 on: January 16, 2021, 10:27:58 AM »
1911/ Glock, the only difference is 80 years of development.
Some people like Model T's, some like Mustangs .     ;D

When talking Glock vs. 1911, the 80 years is more materials for manufacture and small tweaks than the major differences we see in technology in 80 years of autos.

People, Pincus, condemn 1911's due to failure rates.  I have run 100k rounds (documented) through my S&W 1911.  The only competition fails came at a steel competition at Mesa, AZ on a very dry and dusty range.  It was my fault!  I prepped the gun, went to the local indoor range and ran 10 rounds through it (2 shots, mag change, 2 shots, mag change, ...), boxed it, and headed to the airport.  I ran just over 400 rounds through it on day one, and that night I gave it a light cleaning (stripped down, wiped down, and added a little lube).  The next day I had issues several times, until I tore it down and cleaned the best I could after the fifth stage (first chance I had enough time to do it, due to shooting order).  First issue was using my northern lube that was more viscus and held dust, and not doing a detailed cleaning between first and second day to get all the sand out of its ass.
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Re: Picking up a new 1911... One problem
« Reply #72 on: January 16, 2021, 11:49:42 AM »
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The reason for no rail on a 1911 is that 1911 owners aren't afraid of the dark.

The reason for wanting a rail has to do with using the Mantis  trigger analysis module.   I don't like lights and lasers for other reasons.


Not picking on 1911s, BUT, (here it comes).   Thursday night's indoor USPSA match we had 3 1911 shooters on our squad.  All three had  problems with their guns.   These weren't spring chickens either.  Crusty ole 1911 guys.   You'd think they'd have worked out the kinks by now.  One was definitely ammo problems.   We think he seated his last batch to long.  When he "open and show clear" the brass came out with a shower of powder and the bullet was stuck in the throat of the barrel.   NOT THE GUNS FAULT I know.

But every 1911 on the line sounded, I don't know, clunky, rattle-ry, when they loaded the first round.   I couldn't help but think, the CZs and PT92s and the striker fired guns just sound so much more, sturdy, solid-ly when the loaded up.

Don't fuss at me.  I have an original 1970 Colt MKIV.  It shoots well and I've shot it in competition.   Just like my revolvers more.  Does that make me old, old, crusty-crusty school?



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Re: Picking up a new 1911... One problem
« Reply #73 on: January 16, 2021, 12:14:43 PM »
The reason for wanting a rail has to do with using the Mantis  trigger analysis module.   I don't like lights and lasers for other reasons.


Not picking on 1911s, BUT, (here it comes).   Thursday night's indoor USPSA match we had 3 1911 shooters on our squad.  All three had  problems with their guns.   These weren't spring chickens either.  Crusty ole 1911 guys.   You'd think they'd have worked out the kinks by now.  One was definitely ammo problems.   We think he seated his last batch to long.  When he "open and show clear" the brass came out with a shower of powder and the bullet was stuck in the throat of the barrel.   NOT THE GUNS FAULT I know.

But every 1911 on the line sounded, I don't know, clunky, rattle-ry, when they loaded the first round.   I couldn't help but think, the CZs and PT92s and the striker fired guns just sound so much more, sturdy, solid-ly when the loaded up.

Don't fuss at me.  I have an original 1970 Colt MKIV.  It shoots well and I've shot it in competition.   Just like my revolvers more.  Does that make me old, old, crusty-crusty school?


In a word, YES.  ;D

But fear not....misery loves company and MOST of the rest of us are already there too or rapidly approaching.  ;D
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Re: Picking up a new 1911... One problem
« Reply #74 on: January 16, 2021, 01:31:49 PM »
Alf,

I have polymer and steel pistols.  I listen to them operate as I maintain them, and as I manipulate them.  I think some of what you talk about is the difference in materials.  I believe that the polymers encasing the rails on "modern" pistols tends to muffle some of the rattle we become accustomed to in old school pistols.
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Re: Picking up a new 1911... One problem
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Re: Picking up a new 1911... One problem
« Reply #75 on: January 16, 2021, 02:20:11 PM »
Yes, Mike, the polymers do so.   But the 92s and the CZ are all metal and they just have a, I don't know how to say it, a more solid sound when the lock up than the 1911s.   Just a passing feeling I had this week.  Could have been it was only my 3rd match with my Sig X5 and I was overly conscience of how it looked and sounded, and shot, compared to the other guns.   I'm such  a socialite. 
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Re: Picking up a new 1911... One problem
« Reply #76 on: January 16, 2021, 05:42:53 PM »
Yes, Mike, the polymers do so.   But the 92s and the CZ are all metal and they just have a, I don't know how to say it, a more solid sound when the lock up than the 1911s.   Just a passing feeling I had this week.  Could have been it was only my 3rd match with my Sig X5 and I was overly conscience of how it looked and sounded, and shot, compared to the other guns.   I'm such  a socialite.

How do you like the X5 so far?  I’m weeks away from being eligible for employee discounts.

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Re: Picking up a new 1911... One problem
« Reply #77 on: January 17, 2021, 08:19:37 AM »
Without the mag-well it qualifies for IDPA SSP division and for USPSA Produvtion.  Its weight and size design to be the most without exceeding limits.  It's hefty to help with recoil recovery and it's smooth operating with a great trigger.   I love it.  I've got about 1,000 rounds through it and used it in 3 indoor matches so far. 

 My plans are to keep using it through March then go back to revolver for the Spring and Summer.  USPSA Nationals are in May and I stand a better chance with revolver.  After the IRC in September I'll go back to the X5.
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