Author Topic: Pistols with a shot at replacing the M9  (Read 17842 times)

tombogan03884

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Re: Pistols with a shot at replacing the M9
« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2011, 03:09:05 PM »

Amen....remember the M16 and McNamara?

Men died, McNamara should have been shot! Has anything really changed politically in the last fifty years?



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Re: Pistols with a shot at replacing the M9
« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2011, 03:12:28 PM »

Amen....remember the M16 and McNamara?

Men died, McNamara should have been shot!  Has anything really changed politically in the last fifty years?



Exactly. As long as the dems control both the White House and the Senate, this is like spinning wheels in the mud. Remember the military under Carter, then under Regan. Right now it stands more to reason to hope for a better President, than a better sidearm. At least from a military standpoint. I'll buy more guns than they do under Hussein.

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Re: Pistols with a shot at replacing the M9
« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2011, 03:58:43 PM »
Exactly. As long as the dems control both the White House and the Senate, this is like spinning wheels in the mud. Remember the military under Carter, then under Regan. Right now it stands more to reason to hope for a better President, than a better sidearm. At least from a military standpoint. I'll buy more guns than they do under Hussein.

You and Dave buy more guns than they did under FDR !    ;D

Yes I do remember that peanut peddling POS.
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Re: Pistols with a shot at replacing the M9
« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2011, 04:05:16 PM »
Carter was just another reason I decided to leave the Military rather than re-enlist and make a life with it!  I separated in Sept '79 because we didn't know who the next POTUS was going to be.  Reagan didn't commit until December if I recall!

Things did change under Reagan but it still took time, and money!

I made 564 bucks a month then, by Oct of that same year, I was making 500 bucks a week at GM and nearly 800 a week after I got laid off and started to tend bar!

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Re: Pistols with a shot at replacing the M9
« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2011, 04:43:19 PM »
I hit 19 yrs last week.  One more year but I need to push out a little.  I'd hate to get a retirement letter with BHO's signature on it.
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Re: Pistols with a shot at replacing the M9
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Re: Pistols with a shot at replacing the M9
« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2011, 05:25:22 PM »
I hit 19 yrs last week.  One more year but I need to push out a little.  I'd hate to get a retirement letter with BHO's signature on it.

I wondered about that when he gave that Marine Hero his MOH a few weeks ago!

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Re: Pistols with a shot at replacing the M9
« Reply #46 on: October 05, 2011, 06:28:13 PM »
I wondered about that when he gave that Marine Hero his MOH a few weeks ago!

At least he requested, and was granted, the White House Home Brew Summer Ale. (on the house).

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Re: Pistols with a shot at replacing the M9
« Reply #47 on: November 29, 2011, 08:42:08 AM »

All the major players (S&W, Glock, SIG, HK, FN, Beretta,Taurus) could make the pistols in the required amounts, since delivery will be spread out over 5-10 years. Beretta delivered about 320,000 over 5 years back in 1985.


I remember reading in a 1911 book that 1 reason Glock would not get the contract was that they would not allow their design to be licensed to other mfgr. to allow ramp up during a war. During WWII there were lots of contract mfgrs singer sewing machine, etc. for 1911s. Is this not an issue anymore? I would think that most poly pistols would be hard to contract out.   
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Re: Pistols with a shot at replacing the M9
« Reply #48 on: November 29, 2011, 09:04:43 AM »
I remember reading in a 1911 book that 1 reason Glock would not get the contract was that they would not allow their design to be licensed to other mfgr. to allow ramp up during a war. During WWII there were lots of contract mfgrs singer sewing machine, etc. for 1911s. Is this not an issue anymore? I would think that most poly pistols would be hard to contract out.  

Nowadays, nearly all manufacturers offer some type of polymer framed pistol so no, I don't believe it would be any more of an issue than with traditional steel and wood. there would be exactly the same problems with start up, proving out the molds, dies, and tooling, but only the material would actually be different.
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Re: Pistols with a shot at replacing the M9
« Reply #49 on: November 29, 2011, 11:01:50 AM »
I remember reading in a 1911 book that 1 reason Glock would not get the contract was that they would not allow their design to be licensed to other mfgr. to allow ramp up during a war. During WWII there were lots of contract mfgrs singer sewing machine, etc. for 1911s. Is this not an issue anymore? I would think that most poly pistols would be hard to contract out.   

Since S&W, Glock, SIG, HK, Beretta, and Taurus have all expressed a desire to compete in previous and current service pistol competitions over the last 7 years, and all make polymer pistols, looks like it's not an issue to them anymore, if it ever was.

 

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