Author Topic: Something for Phil and Sledge  (Read 2678 times)

tombogan03884

  • Guest
Something for Phil and Sledge
« on: September 01, 2011, 12:20:19 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/body-infamous-aussie-bushranger-ned-kelly-found-002524804.html

Video at link

Body of infamous Aussie outlaw Ned Kelly found

The headless remains of the infamous Australian outlaw Ned Kelly have finally been identified, officials said Thursday, solving a mystery dating back more than 130 years.

Considered by some to be a cold-blooded killer, Kelly was also seen as a folk hero and symbol of Irish-Australian defiance against the British authorities.

After murdering three policemen, he was captured in Victoria state in 1880 and hanged at Old Melbourne Gaol in November of the same year. But his body went missing after it was thrown into a mass grave.

The bodies in the grave were transferred from the jail to Pentridge Prison in 1929 and then exhumed again in 2009. The investigation into Kelly began when a skull believed to be his -- and stolen in 1978 -- was rediscovered.

Doctors and scientists at the Victorian Institute of Forensic Medicine identified his body, found in a wooden axe box, after a DNA sample was taken from Melbourne teacher Leigh Olver, Kelly's sister Ellen's great-grandson.

"The wear and tear of the skeleton is a little bit more than would be expected for a 25-year-old today," said institute director Professor Stephen Cordner.

"But such was Ned's life, this is hardly surprising."

However, tests found that the skull believed to be Kelly's was in fact not his.

Victoria's Attorney-General Robert Clark said he was amazed by the work of the forensic scientists.

"This is an extraordinary achievement by our forensic team," he said.

"To think a group of scientists could identify the body of a man who was executed more than 130 years ago, moved and buried in a haphazard fashion among 33 other prisoners, most of whom are not identified, is amazing."

Believed to have been born in 1854 or 1855, Kelly became an outlaw two years before he was hanged, taking on corrupt police and greedy land barons.

He survived a shootout with police in 1878 that saw him, his brother Dan, and friends Joe Byrne and Steve Hart slapped with an 8,000-pound bounty -- the largest reward ever offered in the British Empire -- for anyone who found them, dead or alive.

Over the next 18 months, the Kelly Gang held up country towns and robbed their banks, becoming folk heroes to the masses.

In a final gunbattle at Glenrowan, three of the gang members died and Kelly, dressed in home-made plate metal armour and helmet, was wounded and arrested.

Photos of his skeletal remains clearly show a bullet hole in one of his leg bones.

Olver, who supplied the DNA, said he was relieved to finally have some closure.

"It's such a great relief to finally have this side of the story resolved," he told reporters, adding that he hoped a suitable resting place could be found for his colourful relative.

"A place of dignity, a place very appropriate. Where that is will be determined later," he said.

Victoria Police, meanwhile, issued a statement saying that while Kelly's life was "one of Australia's most iconic cultural stories", people should remember he "murdered three police officers in the course of their duty".

The exploits of Kelly and his gang have been the subject of numerous films and television series.

Rolling Stone Mick Jagger played the lead role in the 1970 movie "Ned Kelly" while Heath Ledger starred as the bandit in a 2003 remake that also featured Orlando Bloom and Geoffrey Rush.

He has also been the inspiration for many books, most notably Peter Carey's novel "True History of the Kelly Gang", which won the 2001 Booker Prize.

sledgemeister

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1811
  • Democrat Sheeples
    • Australian Hunting Net
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Something for Phil and Sledge
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2011, 05:12:22 PM »
Poor old ned seems they have lost his head!

Dont really know what the point was digging him up  ???
I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters. - Solomon Short

Conagher 45

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 387
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Something for Phil and Sledge
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2011, 04:03:28 PM »
Still, it is a good story of history from the wild west..... err wild down under.   8)
There is room for all of God's creatures ....., That would be on my plate right next to the taters and gravy.

philw

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3680
  • Aussie Aussie Aussie, Oi Oi Oi
    • Australian Hunting Net
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Something for Phil and Sledge
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2011, 07:55:09 AM »
never understood why soo many look up to criminals
Here’s to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They’re not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can praise them, disagree with them, quote them, disbelieve them, glorify or vilify them. The only thing you can’t do is ignore them

Solus

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8666
  • DRTV Ranger
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 43
Re: Something for Phil and Sledge
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2011, 09:14:18 AM »
never understood why soo many look up to criminals


To many folks, they are the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers the round pegs in the square holes, the ones who see things differently, and they’re not fond of rules either.
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
—Patrick Henry

"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."
— Daniel Webster

Sponsor

  • Guest
Re: Something for Phil and Sledge
« Reply #5 on: Today at 11:30:03 AM »

tombogan03884

  • Guest
Re: Something for Phil and Sledge
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2011, 09:24:55 AM »
never understood why soo many look up to criminals


To many folks, they are the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers the round pegs in the square holes, the ones who see things differently, and they’re not fond of rules either.

Gee, where have I seen that before ? It looks familiar for some reason.   ;D

Another thing to consider is that it is Govt that defines who is a criminal.
For example, John Dillinger was portrayed as an evil SOB by the Govt because he robbed banks.
But at a time when banks where seizing  farms across the country that had been in families for generations the public perceived him as a sort of modern day Robin Hood dispensing a bit of whats goes around coming around .
The ironic part is that his families farm was never in danger of foreclosure.

Another example is the James Gang.
To the govt they were just a bunch of outlaws, but to large numbers of Southerners they were the last hold outs of the Confederacy.
The federal govt saw them as robbing banks and trains while the people of occupied Missouri saw them as resisting Yankee domination.


tt11758

  • Noolis bastardis carborundum (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5821
  • DRTV Ranger ~
    • 10-Ring Firearms Training
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 7
Re: Something for Phil and Sledge
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2011, 10:28:10 AM »
never understood why soo many look up to criminals



I don't mind so much that they look up to them.  What pisses me off is that they keep ELECTING them!
I love waking up every morning knowing that Donald Trump is President!!

 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk