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Ga SWAT....
« on: September 06, 2011, 03:32:51 PM »
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September 6, 2011
Moultrie SWAT fatally shoots man

A standoff Monday at a northwest Moultrie home ended with the resident dead and a police officer injured. Investigators said the man came at officers three times with a knife before a fatal shot was fired. Officers also tried to sudue the man with a Taser during the incident, but to no avail.

A witness at the scene identified the dead man as Wayne Peterson, but several officials contacted for this story refused to confirm his name.

Steve Turner, special agent in charge of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation’s Thomasville office, said someone threw a rock or brick through the window of the Best Little Store in Georgia on West Central Avenue sometime before 10 a.m. Monday. A Moultrie police officer went to a house on Seventh Avenue Northwest to question the resident, who was believed to have thrown the object.

The man threatened the officer with a butcher knife, Turner said. The officer withdrew and called the SWAT team.

Turner said the SWAT team tried to communicate with the man in the house, going so far as to try to give him a telephone. Officers placed the phone near the house, but the man wouldn’t retrieve it, Turner said.

Then the officers tried to move the phone into the house, he said, and the man came at them again with the knife. They used a Taser on him and he slammed the door, barricading himself inside again.

The officers thought they had incapacitated the man with the Taser, Turner said, so about 10 SWAT officers entered the house through the back between 12:30 and 1 p.m. Turner said the man went at them with the knife again and he was shot.

One of the SWAT officers suffered a head wound during the entry. Turner said it was not serious.

Turner said he is not aware of any of the SWAT officers being placed on adminiistrative leave in the wake of this incident.

The man’s body will be sent this morning to the GBI Crime Lab for autopsy, according to Colquitt County Deputy Coroner Jeremy Dickens.

Crime scene tape and officers’ cars blocked about two blocks of Seventh Street Northwest near the intersection with First Avenue. A crowd gathered shortly after the shooting.

Several onlookers said the man who was shot was mentally challenged and expressed their anger at what had happened. Turner could neither confirm nor deny the man’s mental condition.

“That man is mentally impaired and they shot that man,” said Angela Johnson, who lives in the area. “It’s no excuse at all for the Moultrie Police Department. No excuse at all. Why did you shoot that man for breaking a window?”

http://tiftongazette.com/local/x1642541189/Moultrie-SWAT-fatally-shoots-man

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Re: Ga SWAT....
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2011, 04:39:55 PM »
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“That man is mentally impaired and they shot that man,” said Angela Johnson, who lives in the area. “It’s no excuse at all for the Moultrie Police Department. No excuse at all. Why did you shoot that man for breaking a window?”

I guess trying to kill police officers is something that Angela can happily overlook.  Maybe she should have been sent in to talk to Mr. Mentally Impaired.

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Re: Ga SWAT....
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2011, 04:48:47 PM »
I guess trying to kill police officers is something that Angela can happily overlook.  Maybe she should have been sent in to talk to Mr. Mentally Impaired.

Looking at it from another perspective, the responding cop had a gun, possibly a taser (our officers have them), and pepper spray, none of which he attempted to use. Instead, he ran (like a sissy?) and called in the freakin' SWAT team. Standard procedure maybe?

No one used tear gas into the house, the SWAT team tasered him (they thought), entered (where was the lead-in shield? where was the flash-bang?), he came with a knife, and they had (?) to shoot the guy.

How does a SWAT team member wearing a helmet get a head wound? Unless it's the face, but then they might have said face wound, not head wound.

Lots here to use - on how NOT to subdue a suspect with a SWAT team.
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Re: Ga SWAT....
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2011, 05:48:59 PM »
Looking at it from another perspective, the responding cop had a gun, possibly a taser (our officers have them), and pepper spray, none of which he attempted to use. Instead, he ran (like a sissy?) and called in the freakin' SWAT team. Standard procedure maybe?

No one used tear gas into the house, the SWAT team tasered him (they thought), entered (where was the lead-in shield? where was the flash-bang?), he came with a knife, and they had (?) to shoot the guy.

How does a SWAT team member wearing a helmet get a head wound? Unless it's the face, but then they might have said face wound, not head wound.

Lots here to use - on how NOT to subdue a suspect with a SWAT team.

Same questions and thoughts I had, Path.
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Re: Ga SWAT....
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2011, 06:41:33 PM »
The man broke a window and was running around in his house with a knife.....no threat to anyone unless they went after him....

That is the time to block the place off so he can't get loose, do a little research, maybe contact his Dr. or minister or a family member and try that approach.

Instead, they tazed  him, and then stormed the place.   He responded as they knew he would and they shot him.

Not saying that once that state of affairs was reached that the shooting was unjustified, just that the situation should have and could have been easily avoided.



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Re: Ga SWAT....
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Re: Ga SWAT....
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2011, 06:52:40 PM »
"so about 10 SWAT officers entered the house through the back between 12:30 and 1 p.m."

It took 3 minutes each for them to waddle their fat asses through the door ?
Seems if he was giving an approximate time he would have said "around quarter till 1 ".
Not enough info and that's only one side of the story, and probably further screwed up by the reporter.

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Re: Ga SWAT....
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2011, 07:44:45 PM »
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BTW...anyone notice that the S.W.A.T. TV forum has disappeared?



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Re: Ga SWAT....
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2011, 07:49:09 PM »
Socially
Warped
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Troubled...

BTW...anyone notice that the S.W.A.T. TV forum has disappeared?

I hadn't, but it makes sense.
That was something Pincus had going.
Since it wasn't one of MB's, or OC's  shows I really didn't think it belonged here anyway.

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Re: Ga SWAT....
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2011, 08:00:21 PM »
I agree with some previous posts,,,,,, no hostages,(which changes the dynamic), he's certainly not going anywhere, but just a knife?.... no tear gas, flash/bang grenades, bean bag 12g rds?

Seems an armed assault/entry is warranted as a last resort, but unless he had a Ma Duece or a "real" arsenal, it seems lobbing some OC grenades in the house might have led to a non lethal outcome.

Perhaps a long range sniper taser? Effective range 75-100 yds? 

I wasn't there, so I don't know any other "things" going on,...but a 12g bean bag vs. a charging knife attack +3 attempts, would have changed his attitude, and perhaps saved his troubled life.



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Re: Ga SWAT....
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2011, 08:09:02 PM »
Of course they could have just waited him out.
 It's not as if any one was in danger.
With the economy the city might not have been able to afford the Over time.

 

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