Pincus on open carry

[gcerbone]

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Not so sure I agree with the sentiment.  Tactically, he may have a point.  Open carry means that you *might* loose a tactical advantage.  Of course, open carrying may discourage the attack in the first place.

The uncomfortable truth for lots of folks is that once you accept the idea that something is a fundamental right, it means that individuals can exercise that right in ways that you don’t like. The whole idea of “it’s a right but you shouldn’t exercise it” is a bunch of crap. It’s one step removed from “if we let them take those nasty assault weapons then they will leave our hunting rifles alone.”

Divided we fail, Rob.

[tombogan03884]

Pincus, like every other CCW instructor has a vested interest in down playing open carry.
The whole argument against open carry is based on the idea that "it scares the anti's".
When it comes right down to it, they deserve to be scared. They are so cowardly or irresponsible that they expect the cop to do for them what they lack the guts to do for themselves. The police could justifiably use the same argument that was used by the anti war movement in the 60's.
"If they are not willing to defend themselves why should we risk our lives to fight for them."

They just don't get the concept of "Shall not be infringed".

[seeker_two]

I think Rob explains his position best with this statement....

The right to OC, IMO, should NOT be exercised because it isn't the BEST way to avoid confrontation as long as possible and have the benefit of surprise when you do. Regardless of the logic of the responses, they are REAL and have to factored into the choices that we make. It isn't logical that people try to hurt one another and steal their stuff either, BUT....

....and....

The good news is that I teach Tactics, not Politics. :-)

IMHO, I think he's more interested in citizens maintaining a tactical advantage rather than making a political statement....I support OC, too....but I'm more interested in carrying my firearm as a SD weapon rather than a political statement....I've got t-shirts for that....

[Bic]

I doubt that I would OC in a public area, BUT I strongly support the passing of legislation that would permit me to do so as it would stop me from worrying whether or not I was 'printing'/accidentally 'brandishing' thus enabling me to carry a more effective weapon under my shirt.

MP

[tombogan03884]

I have never heard any one else mention what I consider to be the only valid argument against open carry.
I used to do all the time.
The pistol was forever whacking furniture, door cases etc as I walked by.
I finally quit doing when while splitting kindling the ax handle whacked the grip and split the grip panel.
Concealed carry, even if the gun is really obvious, keeps the pistol closer to the body and far more protected from damage incurred in the course of daily routines.

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[MikeBjerum]

acerbone,

Welcome aboard, and even if some, like me, disagree, please know that we welcome differing views and debates.

All that said, I don't understand your issue with that post of Rob's.  He is saying that you should not carry open in order to make a political statement.  He is not saying it is politically incorrect to open carry.  Rob does believe that concealed is the best for retention, the element of surprise, to not draw undue attention of both the general public and law enforcement that should not be distracted by you, and to not single you out as the first target in a violent situation.

In this post Rob is not saying that open carry is politically incorrect or harmful to our stance and 2nd Amendment protection of the Right.

Keep in mind that the more well known and the broader the education area of an instructor the more careful they are going to become with their words.  This is because they always have to be aware of the most stupid person that will quote them in public, the media or a court of law.  They need to be very careful with what they post on a place like facebook, put in their videos or do and say on broadcast statements, because there are idiots out there that will take it without thinking and act.  In a private class they can say and recommend more, because they know their students and can make sure their words are fully understood.

[fullautovalmet76]

.....He is saying that you should not carry open in order to make a political statement.  He is not saying it is politically incorrect to open carry.......

M58,
I disagree with you and Rob. I do not believe it is wrong to mix the First Amendment with the Second Amendment.

[2HOW]

Its a two edged sword. Open carry leaves you more vulnerable than concealed carry. I do open carry occasionally, I like to exercise my rights . But concealed carry has more advantages .


 

[MikeBjerum]

M58,
I disagree with you and Rob. I do not believe it is wrong to mix the First Amendment with the Second Amendment.

Feel free to disagree.  I can't speak for Mr. Pincus, but you will not change me.  And if you come to a class I am instructing in you will not win the debate.

[Hazcat]

In Florida it reaches 100+ with humidity at 80%.  I would LOVE open carry!