Author Topic: NM Mayor Bans Firearms, Citizens Arm Themselves, And Go To City Council Mtg.  (Read 9323 times)

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http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/09/ruidoso-nm-mayor-bans-firearms-on.html

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At one guy even slung an AR. Of course Larry Pratt and Bob Wright are in the middle of the resistance. Bob reports the cops were "VERY, VERY polite." With at least 80 armed citizens in the room that was probably a good idea.

http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/politics/verbal-shots-fired-in-ruidoso-gunfight

Verbal shots fired in Ruidoso gunfight

Updated: Wednesday, 14 Sep 2011, 8:51 AM MDT
Published : Wednesday, 14 Sep 2011, 8:51 AM MDT

RUIDOSO, N.M. (KRQE) - There were powerful emotions and strong words at a city council meeting in Ruidoso, New Mexico Tuesday tonight.

Gun owners from down the road and from around the country, packed council chambers to give the mayor an earful about his executive order banning guns from village government buildings and meetings.

They ignored the ban to prove their point. Guns were very visible but the only shots fired were verbal and they were directed at the mayor.


"You are just as a much a tyrant for requiring someone to surrender their civil rights to carry a firearm in order to participate in their government as you are in asking them to surrender their right to vote or anything else,” Bob Wright said
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Speakers were given three minutes to speak and they did not hold back ,most of them with their guns holstered by their sides.


"Almost all of the mass murders in our country have occurred in areas just like you're fixing to set up, in gun free zones,” Executive Director of Gun Owners of America, Larry Pratt, said.


Locals, activists from the NRA and the Executive Director of Gun Owners of America, who flew in from Virginia, took to the podium to take a stand.

In all more than 100 people filled the council chamber to capacity, dozens of them carrying guns, despite signs that say ‘no guns allowed.’

Police were on hand but they did not stop them.


Ruidoso Mayor Ray Alborn issued the executive order banning firearms from government property and meetings a month ago, after a citizen refused to give up his gun after taking the podium.

"The police chief took it away from him, he filed a suit. At that time I realized how unprotected we in the front of the room, there's 11 of us, plus all of our citizens and employees who were at the meeting, how unprotected we were,” Alborn said.

The executive order does not apply to law enforcement.

The mayor also says there is a lot of misinformation including a rumor that the ban means people need to give up their guns the second they step on Ruidoso soil.

Critics loudly proclaim he is violating their 2nd amendment rights and that he thinks the law's on his side.

Alborn says if village council shoots down his executive order he might step down.

“My responsibility is health, safety and welfare of our employees so if we're not going to be able to do these kinds of things I’m not sure I want to be sitting in this seat,” Alborn said.

Protesters called for the mayor and the village attorney to resign. However, in the end the village council put off the vote.

No word when they might vote on the executive order.

The mayor says two state laws give him the authority to ban firearms in village buildings But the National Rifle Association says a New Mexico Supreme Court decision forbids local authorities from making piecemeal changes to the constitutional right to keep and bear arms.


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Sounds just like my asshat Mayor here in Florida.....Must be a defective gene.....
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Sometimes a little authority appears to convey a great deal of power in the minds of the weak-willed. 

You will frequently see it in badge-happy LEOs who suddenly think they rule the world. 

We're seeing it now in the the WH, where a servant of the people wants to be our emperor. 

It is the nature of power to corrupt.
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“My responsibility is health, safety and welfare of our employees so if we're not going to be able to do these kinds of things I’m not sure I want to be sitting in this seat,” Alborn said.

CRAP.  His job is to run the city government. Not set up a little nanny state.

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They never get it--the ones that obey a sign are not the ones you need to worry about.   >:(

How low does your IQ need to be to not get that? ???

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CRAP.  His job is to run the city government. Not set up a little nanny state.

These liberal gals and guys take on a Hitler Complex when exposed to power.  

Beware the liberal.

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It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
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from a liabilty stand point he is right.( like it or not, thats just how it is)

Clearly the towns people don't think he is... welll as a elected offical, you must fallow the wishs of those that elected you.
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from a liabilty stand point he is right.( like it or not, thats just how it is)

Clearly the towns people don't think he is... welll as a elected offical, you must fallow the wishs of those that elected you.

BS!

He does not have the right or power to use executive order to take away a constitutionally protected Right.  This is the time and place where I do believe in open carry.  This is the type of movement our founding fathers wanted us to be prepared for.

If he can unilaterally ban firearms from a certain time, place or event, he has taken the power to do it on a larger scale, and before you know it he is issuing orders that remove all rights, including life, from his subjects.  Sound far fetched?  Look at how so many other nations and civilizations have gone down that road.
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WOW!!!! I lived 45 minutes from there for years and never once would have thought that wonderful little town would go down this road... Shocking!
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We had a guy that would bring a shotgun into city council meetings (he was a bit a crank and very adversarial with the council).  All perfectly legal.   Needless to say they were intimidated and as a result the council banned open carry from all city building.  Can't say that I agree with their reasoning or decision, but I can understand why they did it.

Colorado Springs Council Split in 5-4 Decision Approving Ordinance

There will be no further brandishing of weapons in Springs City Council meetings.

The Colorado Springs City Council voted five to four Tuesday to ban open firearms in city buildings.

Council memebrs decided carrying a gun openly in city buildings was an infringement on peoples rights.

The proposal was prompted by resident Don Ortega who's been taking his shotgun to City Council meetings since last month.

Council member Tom Gallagher criticized Ortega and his actions for bringing his gun to Council and prompting the issue. "Mr. Ortega, you are an arrogant, stupid, irresponsible man, and you caused this and I want everybody to know that. You didn't have the decency to respect the people around you and therefore demonstrated you are an irresponsible gun owner." Gallagher voted against the ordinence banning open carry of weapons.

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Ich, since they can't open carry does that mean they can and should concealed carry w/permit?  Seems that way to me!

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