Author Topic: Violent Crime Numbers Out From DOJ. Down 12%. They Don't Know Why.  (Read 3143 times)

TAB

  • DRTV Rangers
  • Top Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 10220
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 103
Re: Violent Crime Numbers Out From DOJ. Down 12%. They Don't Know Why.
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2011, 03:21:12 PM »
FTA:

a 2.8 percent decline in the number of property crimes.
The FBI's final figures for last year will be released Monday.

This is taken nationally, YMMV if you live in Detroit, parts of Cleavland, Baltimore, or Atlanta, or parts of S. Miami..... and yes TAB, parts of Kalifornia, for sure.




Then I blame the illegals... thousands have left becuase of lack jobs for them.


I'd be intrested to see if that 2.5% decrease, is actually like in $.  If the numbers are down, but the $$$ ammount is up I don't see it as good thing.


I'd also bet lack of reporting is a big part of that 2.5% drop.  several local countys/city have stoped sending LEOs for a lot of crimes.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

kmitch200

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2290
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 5
Re: Violent Crime Numbers Out From DOJ. Down 12%. They Don't Know Why.
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2011, 04:01:23 PM »
I'd also bet lack of reporting is a big part of that 2.5% drop.  several local countys/city have stoped sending LEOs for a lot of crimes.

You don't have to have a cop show up in person to make a report.
Call for a theft from a vehicle for instance, and you get a phone call returned to give you a report # to give to your insurance agent.
A cop may or may not show up but it is still a 'reported' crime.
You can say lots of bad things about pedophiles; but at least they drive slowly past schools.

alfsauve

  • Semper Vigilantes
  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7621
  • DRTV Ranger
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 588
Re: Violent Crime Numbers Out From DOJ. Down 12%. They Don't Know Why.
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2011, 04:06:27 PM »


Experts aren't sure why. The expectation had been that crime would increase in a weak economy with high unemployment like that seen in 2010.



This is what I love.   THE EXPERTS AREN'T SURE WHY.

BUT these same experts don't hesitate to support, more gun control, warrant-less searches, federal monitoring of our daily activities, etc.   It would seem to me statements like this summarily discredit the "experts".

Will work for ammo
USAF MAC 437th MAW 1968-1972

PegLeg45

  • NRA Life, SAF, Constitutionalist
  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13271
  • DRTV Ranger
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 1388
Re: Violent Crime Numbers Out From DOJ. Down 12%. They Don't Know Why.
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2011, 09:38:54 PM »
What concerns me is what seems to be a trend toward these "flash mob" crimes.  When a gaggle of young thugs swarm a store, parking lot, or some other public place there isn't that much you can do.  You just have to crank the awareness up to "High" and know where the exits are located.


Yep.....there are more folks carrying guns CCW.....so the tactics of the thugs have changed to 'outnumbering and overwhelming' potential victims. Time to start carrying more spare ammo and knowing where the back door is.
"I expect perdition, I always have. I keep this building at my back, and several guns handy, in case perdition arrives in a form that's susceptible to bullets. I expect it will come in the disease form, though. I'm susceptible to diseases, and you can't shoot a damned disease." ~ Judge Roy Bean, Streets of Laredo

For the Patriots of this country, the Constitution is second only to the Bible for most. For those who love this country, but do not share my personal beliefs, it is their Bible. To them nothing comes before the Constitution of these United States of America. For this we are all labeled potential terrorists. ~ Dean Garrison

"When it comes to the enemy, just because they ain't pullin' a trigger, doesn't mean they ain't totin' ammo for those that are."~PegLeg

tombogan03884

  • Guest
Re: Violent Crime Numbers Out From DOJ. Down 12%. They Don't Know Why.
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2011, 10:47:13 PM »






Nuff to make a Brotha get a job  :(

Sponsor

  • Guest

jnevis

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1479
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Violent Crime Numbers Out From DOJ. Down 12%. They Don't Know Why.
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2011, 01:24:25 PM »
The guy in the second video could have been cleared for self defense up to the point they started to drive away, taking into account it wasn't gang related and the victim did in fact have a knive.
When seconds mean the difference between life and death, the police will be minutes away.

You are either SOLVING the problem, or you ARE the problem.

blackwolfe

  • A Simple Man
  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1844
  • DRTV Ranger
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Violent Crime Numbers Out From DOJ. Down 12%. They Don't Know Why.
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2011, 08:20:21 PM »
A lot of good points have been made, but perhaps there is something elase going on that isn't apparent.  A lot of state and local governmental units have been downsized in the last couple of years due to budgat cuts, perhaps the reports aren't getting to the feds.

Or maybe this is just the bHo justice department "cooking" the numbers to make themselves look better and justify more dollars for such programs as gun runner.  Maybe it's a "Things are safer now, so it's time to tighten up on gun control" type approach.  Did the methodolligy of the "survey" change?  I wouldn't put anything out of the realm of possibility on this DOJ.
"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. "    Abraham Lincoln
 


Wolfe

david86440

  • Guest
Re: Violent Crime Numbers Out From DOJ. Down 12%. They Don't Know Why.
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2011, 08:29:26 PM »
I think the crime numbers are lower due to the $16 muffins.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/20/us-usa-justice-muffins-idUSTRE78J7B020110920

$16 Muffins, and Taxpayers Pick Up the Tab
By CHARLIE SAVAGE
Published: September 20, 2011
 
WASHINGTON — The Justice Department on Tuesday came under criticism for “extravagant and potentially wasteful” spending on conferences at the end of the Bush administration and early in the Obama administration, including paying $16 per muffin and $8 per eight-ounce cup of coffee at certain events.

“Some conferences featured costly meals, refreshments, and themed breaks that we believe were indicative of wasteful or extravagant spending — especially when service charges, taxes, and indirect costs are factored into the actual price paid for food and beverages,” said a newly released report by the department’s acting inspector general, Cynthia Schnedar.
The report scrutinized spending at a sampling of conferences from October 2007 to September 2009, focusing on eye-popping calculations of food and beverage expenses. For example, at a four-day conference in November 2007 at the Grand Hyatt in Denver on the “Amber Alert” system for searching for missing children, taxpayers ended up paying $5.57 for each of 1,334 cans of soda.

A five-day conference in August 2009 at the Capital Hilton in Washington to train immigration lawyers saved money by serving only snacks. But it still cost $4,200 for 250 muffins and $2,880 for 300 cookies and brownies, more than $16 a muffin and nearly $10 per cookie and brownie.

tombogan03884

  • Guest
Re: Violent Crime Numbers Out From DOJ. Down 12%. They Don't Know Why.
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2011, 09:08:09 PM »
The crime numbers have been dropping ever since the sunset of the Clinton era AWB.
This is not a new trend.

 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk