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Calvary arms raided by batfe
« on: March 24, 2008, 02:47:02 PM »
see it at fox 11 az
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Re: Calvary arms raided by batfe
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2008, 02:56:45 PM »
Here's a link

http://www.fox11az.com/news/topstories/stories/kmsb-20080229-famjc-gunsseized.b924092.html

Bidah,

You said you have been watching this for some time.  Can you give us some background?

Thanks
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Re: Calvary arms raided by batfe
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2008, 04:52:59 PM »
The search warrant becomes public record after it is returned to the issuing court (U.S. Magitrate Judge) and filed. The Federal district court clerk will make it available to the media, then the charges will be known. That should tell the tale. Can take a few days.
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Re: Calvary arms raided by batfe
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2008, 04:58:20 PM »
The search warrant becomes public record after it is returned to the issuing court (U.S. Magitrate Judge) and filed. The Federal district court clerk will make it available to the media, then the charges will be known. That should tell the tale. Can take a few days.
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Mac,

Is there any time limit on returning it or can BATFE just hold it?
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Re: Calvary arms raided by batfe
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2008, 05:10:50 PM »
The standard is the warrant must be returned, with inventory, "as soon as possible" to the issuing court, and since government seizure of private property is involved, the Magistrate Judge will insure prompt compliance by ATF, or there will be problems the next time they want a warrant from him/her.
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Re: Calvary arms raided by batfe
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Re: Calvary arms raided by batfe
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2008, 05:16:56 PM »
Mac,

Maybe I'm wearing my but I can see BATFE saying that as they confiscated hundreds of guns it will take some time to properly inventory before they can turn them and the warrant back in.

Would Calvery arms be given a copy at time of serving?
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Re: Calvary arms raided by batfe
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2008, 06:46:40 PM »
Cavalry would get an inventory before the property left the premises. If it took two days on site, that's what the Federal Rules of Evidence requires, unless there has been a change since I played a lawyer in my High School musical.  They get a copy of the warrant and an inventory.
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Re: Calvary arms raided by batfe
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2008, 12:21:02 PM »
Haz.  Been busy for the last few weeks.  I have not heard a thing that they have been charged with anything.  I am going to go on my opinion here, but I would guess that this is an attempt to shut them down by confiscation.  This is not the first time that they have done it.  What I did hear is that this is a fraud case, but still, nothing.

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Re: Calvary arms raided by batfe
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2008, 12:22:23 PM »
Haz.  Been busy for the last few weeks.  I have not heard a thing that they have been charged with anything.  I am going to go on my opinion here, but I would guess that this is an attempt to shut them down by confiscation.  This is not the first time that they have done it.  What I did hear is that this is a fraud case, but still, nothing.

-Bidah

Fraud?
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Re: Calvary arms raided by batfe
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2008, 12:35:32 PM »
The Clerk of Court, Federal District, in Phoenix, should have the returned warrant out on public information table after it is returned to the Magistrate. It will list the alleged GCA violations, Title 18. USC, Sec 922 something and subsections. The paper will surely do a follow up. It will be interesting and important to keep it in the open.
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