New Residents sue Range Owner

[philw]

http://www.shootingnews.com.au/news/1109%20NEWS/110929%20NEWS%20machinegun%20range.php

NEW RESIDENTS SUE RANGE OWNER

29 September 2011

Residents of housing estate in North Carolina, USA, are suing a neighbour to try to stop him firing his submachine gun at his personal range on a 2.5-hectare block of land.

The range is protected under a state law that covers long-standing ranges, because Dr Michael Land built it before the nearby Stonegate estate was built.

However, that hasn't stopped the residents of the upmarket suburb suing him for emotional distress and reduced property values.

Some say they won't let their children play outside when Land is shooting, while others complain that they cannot host friends at their homes, or that the noise makes it impossible to conduct bible studies.

They also contend that Land should not have a permit for an automatic weapon.

Land's range has a berm to prevent stray bullets from creating a danger to the area, although the range's safety standards have been challenged by some critics.

He also rotated the range to improve safety when the Stonegate development began.

It is not the first time the doctor has fought his position in court. Local authorities tried to shut down his range on the grounds of improper land use, but Land won that case.

Land's permit to automatic weapons in contentious under state laws that heavily restrict such weapons.

Land gained his permit on the basis of a need to protect a mail-order jewellery business but his opponents argue he does not conduct that business from the range, and that he uses his machine guns for sporting purposes, which is said to contrary to the purpose of the law.

The 60-year-old gynaecologist originally bought the land in 1991 so that he could provide a place for his six sons to "learn to shoot and be boys," according to a statement he made in a recent interview.

I hope there case gets thrown out

Old Mate was there first,  not hurting anyone


if they win he should counter sue them for stopping something that he loves doing

or just tell them to GAGF  I will do what I want on my own land

[tombogan03884]

http://www.shootingnews.com.au/news/1109%20NEWS/110929%20NEWS%20machinegun%20range.php


I hope there case gets thrown out

Old Mate was there first,  not hurting anyone


if they win he should counter sue them for stopping something that he loves doing

or just tell them to GAGF  I will do what I want on my own land

Could not have said it better my self.
Although he could sell the land to a Mexican cartel to house transient smugglers.

[twyacht]

As The Gov. of NC recently posted, suggesting a suspension of elections, and the DNC hosting its Libfest Nat. Convention in Charlotte,

I am not surprised, more sections of that state are turning "blue".

FTA,
They also contend that Land should not have a permit for an automatic weapon.

Get over it,. he payed big bucks for the Class III, had his background, life,  run through the ringer by the ATF, FBI, HSA, etc,....He subjects his house to visits, at anytime from the ATF, and he enjoys going full auto.....Wouldn't we all....

Land's permit to automatic weapons in contentious under state laws that heavily restrict such weapons.

Restricted? Yes,....STILL LEGAL? HELL YES....Contentious? NO........This is a "opinion" from the author. I know several folks with Class III stuff in NC,....just another permit and license....

Sadly, regulated by a nanny state to the nth degree.

[bryand71]

I am curious about what area in NC he lives in. Because the Wake County Sheriff won't sign off on Class 3 weapons (as I was told from a class 3 gun owner that moved to Johnson County to legally own his).

[Pecos Bill]

This sounds a lot like a problem we had here. Our airport was established in the twenties and hasn't been moved. After WWII the area began a housing boom all around the airport. Sometime in the seventies the resident of two areas close by the airport began to complain about the noise and bitched to get the airport to buy them out. 99% of these residents bought their houses only a short time before they started to complain. They knew the airport was there. They knew the planes came over or close to over their houses but they wanted money because of the noise. I always ask the question: which came first, the airport or their house? I know for fact some of those houses were built 50 or 60 years after the airport and 30 years after the advent of jet aircraft. (I work in the area and helped put in and repair some of the heating systems.) They got their buy out and the area is now open land that is not in use.

My opinion of the OP? Sounds like a bunch of Yuppies who don't want their "country life style" disturbed. What a crock!!!

Pecos, who's on the Doc's side.

[Sponsor]

[bjtraz]

I am curious about what area in NC he lives in. Because the Wake County Sheriff won't sign off on Class 3 weapons (as I was told from a class 3 gun owner that moved to Johnson County to legally own his).

If they are owned through a trust or corporation, the requirement for signature is removed. Many people do this for this very reason.

Brian

[philw]

If they are owned through a trust or corporation, the requirement for signature is removed. Many people do this for this very reason.

Brian

also if they are in a trust, anyone in the trust can be in possession and use them with no issues,  also make it easier to hand them down to family members that are in the trust

This sounds a lot like a problem we had here. Our airport was established in the twenties and hasn't been moved. After WWII the area began a housing boom all around the airport. Sometime in the seventies the resident of two areas close by the airport began to complain about the noise and bitched to get the airport to buy them out. 99% of these residents bought their houses only a short time before they started to complain. They knew the airport was there. They knew the planes came over or close to over their houses but they wanted money because of the noise. I always ask the question: which came first, the airport or their house? I know for fact some of those houses were built 50 or 60 years after the airport and 30 years after the advent of jet aircraft. (I work in the area and helped put in and repair some of the heating systems.) They got their buy out and the area is now open land that is not in use.

My opinion of the OP? Sounds like a bunch of Yuppies who don't want their "country life style" disturbed. What a crock!!!

Pecos, who's on the Doc's side.

we have that issue with a little airport not far from where I live,    and our range has to be carful  with all the new housing near it,  something unfortunately we have to look out for these days

[Pixcutter]

I'm in a different state (California) and I have a sad tale to tell.  I live in Azusa (East of Los Angeles) and we had a wonderful range (The San Gabriel Valley Gun Club) that was in the foothills just north of Monrovia (5 mi from my home) for over 50 years.  I can attest to this as I learned to fire my .22 there when I was ten years old and I'm now 61.  Less than two years ago, the City of Azusa annexed the area as part of its domain, and with the support of an upscale community that was built across the dry riverbed only a few years ago (after all, it IS California) forced the club to close.  It wasn't a hard fought battle, because the city operated behind closed doors, and managed to postpone any hearing fropm the public by using various meeting rules to avoid discussion.  It's gone.

The complaints were the same: too much noise, scaring the residents, fear of bullets (although, in this case, the range was up a different canyon far enough that it was a ballistic impossibility of any danger.  Yet they still closed it.

Fight this!  Get the NRA to help (after all, that's why they take our money), get the state shooting association to help.  Get legal platforms and precedents in place.  Because they hopliphobes (Thanks, Jeff) will do EVERYTHING to take our guns.  The fear of the ability to protect yourself runs rampant through the liberal emotional level.  I served my country so that all might have an opinion, but not so my rights could be trampled.  We are in a battle for the survival of the 2nd Amendment, and by extension, the survival of the Constitution.  Don't ignore this.

[Ulmus]

I saw a new home developeent shut down a plant that was there first and had been there for decades.  The people complained about the soot from the smokestack (Burning processing center) and won.

That was in Michigan.

In Florida, a new development tried to shut down a cmemnt processing plant that was across the street and had been there over a decade before the development complaing about the noise and "dirt" floating in the air and landing on the houses.  The development lost.

It all depends on where you live and who's in office.

[TAB]

I'm in a different state (California) and I have a sad tale to tell.  I live in Azusa (East of Los Angeles) and we had a wonderful range (The San Gabriel Valley Gun Club) that was in the foothills just north of Monrovia (5 mi from my home) for over 50 years.  I can attest to this as I learned to fire my .22 there when I was ten years old and I'm now 61.  Less than two years ago, the City of Azusa annexed the area as part of its domain, and with the support of an upscale community that was built across the dry riverbed only a few years ago (after all, it IS California) forced the club to close.  It wasn't a hard fought battle, because the city operated behind closed doors, and managed to postpone any hearing fropm the public by using various meeting rules to avoid discussion.  It's gone.

The complaints were the same: too much noise, scaring the residents, fear of bullets (although, in this case, the range was up a different canyon far enough that it was a ballistic impossibility of any danger.  Yet they still closed it.

Fight this!  Get the NRA to help (after all, that's why they take our money), get the state shooting association to help.  Get legal platforms and precedents in place.  Because they hopliphobes (Thanks, Jeff) will do EVERYTHING to take our guns.  The fear of the ability to protect yourself runs rampant through the liberal emotional level.  I served my country so that all might have an opinion, but not so my rights could be trampled.  We are in a battle for the survival of the 2nd Amendment, and by extension, the survival of the Constitution.  Don't ignore this.

when stuff like that happens, money changed hands, maybe directly, maybe indirectly, but some one was bought.