Herman Cain

[Magoo541]

Don't buy into the mainstream media hoax about Ron Paul not being electable.  He has already been elected to Congress multiple times. 

435 people are elected to the House EVERY 2 years, not all of them are presidential material.  In fact who was the last Congressman to be elected President?  Garfield, and who the hell was he?

I'll tell you this:  If Ron Paul is not the Republican nominee, then Obama will get re-elected. 

Precisely why:
1.  We got BHO in the first place
2.  Ron Paul and his supporters are looked at as kooks

And ifwhen Ron Paul isn't the nominee and BHO loses what say you?  Eat your hat?  Your words?  Ron Paul's shorts?

[mauler]

The Federal Reserve has been around since 1913. Somebody has got to run it. All of these Ron Paul disciples are trained to despise everything economic Paul doesn't like. The Federal Reserve is far from perfect. But our currency is among the best in the world, and is the standard all others are judged against. Every time I hear the term "fiat dollar" I know it's some Ron Paul junkie getting off on his latest economic nonsense.

Paul is a crackpot, period. And he contradicts himself all the time. One minute he talks of putting this country back on a "Gold Standard". In another he talks of selling off the gold in Fort Knox to pay off the debt. Both are stupid ideas that will never happen. In another idiotic speech he talks about closing 800 military bases world wide. This guy is completely off the rails, and makes no sense. He was booed by his own crowd at the Tea Party Debate.

Now we've caught Iran in a plot to assassinate leaders on American soil. Yet again Ron Paul is just peachy with these ass hats getting a nuclear weapon. His philosophy of, "They'll leave us alone if we leave them alone", is totally ridiculous. And last but not least he was against the killing of Anwar Al Awlaki. And they wonder why this clown keeps polling under 10%. I wish he would just go back to doing what he does best, bringing the pork home to Galveston. The Shrimp fishermen love him.

You should really spend some time studying the Federal Reserve issue, as well as the Austrian school of economics.  You should also listen to what Ron Paul actually says, considering you have mis-characterized his message.  Ron Paul stands for following the Constitution.  If we followed the Constitution and abolished the Federal Reserve bank, this country has a chance to be saved.  Also, if we followed the Constitution and did not have a global empire, we as Americans would be much safer.  It is the welfare/warfare state THAT CAN ONLY BE SUSTAINED BY A CENTRAL BANK PRINTING MONEY OUT OF THIN AIR that has the country on the brink of ruin. 

Ron Paul does not wish for Iran to have a nuclear weapon, nor does he wish that the any other country, including the US has them either.  The CIA and the UN have both said the Iran is not even within 10 years of being able to produce a nuclear weapon, even if they desired to do so. 

His philosophy of peaceful trade and no entangling alliances with other countries is the identical foreign policy of George Washington. 

You realize that Anwar Al-Awlaki was a US citizen, right?  You are also familiar with the 5th amendment to the Con forbidding a citizen being deprived of their life without due process?  You realize that Awlaki was never indicted, never tried before a jury, never afforded legal counsel.  He was summarily executed on the say so of Obama.  Period.  So if the president decides that YOU OR YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS are terrorists he can execute you without having to give any legal justification, even after you are dead.  I cannot think of anything more UNAMERICAN than supporting a citizen being executed by the emperor's decree.  When one person's rights are violated, every person's rights are violated.  Cheering the extra-judicial execution of any person is disgusting.  To do so demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding of the Constitution, due process, human rights and basic human decency.

[mauler]

435 people are elected to the House EVERY 2 years, not all of them are presidential material.  In fact who was the last Congressman to be elected President?  Garfield, and who the hell was he?
Precisely why:
1.  We got BHO in the first place
2.  Ron Paul and his supporters are looked at as kooks

And ifwhen Ron Paul isn't the nominee and BHO loses what say you?  Eat your hat?  Your words?  Ron Paul's shorts?

It won't matter because Ron Paul has already started a Revolution.  He has helped a whole generation re-discover what the idea of liberty and the rule of law are about.  This movement is not stopping any time soon.  It certainly won't be stopped if Dr. Paul isn't elected president.  This election and the next one after that are not important in the grand scheme.  As Dr. Paul has said, "Politicians are basically irrelevant.  Ideas are all that matter."  P.S.  Lyndon Johnson was in the House of Representatives, not that that is relevant.

[billt]

Don't buy into the mainstream media hoax about Ron Paul not being electable.  He has already been elected to Congress multiple times.  I'll tell you this:  If Ron Paul is not the Republican nominee, then Obama will get re-elected.  Why?  Because Ron Paul supporters are knowledgeable and informed, and they don't support Dr. Paul because he is this month's prom king media darling (Perry, now Cain).  Ron Paul supporters will not hold their noses and vote for one of the bought and paid for corporate/bankster/globalist shills that make up the rest of the Republican field.  I don't expect the corrupt party of Abraham Lincoln to nominate Dr. Paul, since the Repubs and Dems are two branching of the same party, that being the big government party.  If all of Ron Paul's supporters walk away, the Republicans are doomed.  But it won't really be a loss for them since Obama is doing all the things they like anyway.  They absolutely FEAR someone as principled and committed to the cause of liberty and the rule of law as Dr. Paul.  RON PAUL 2012!!

I don't know how far you had to fall to hit your head that hard, but you're in for a very rude awakening. Ron Paul getting elected into Congress doesn't have a thing to do with him getting into the White House. The last time this nation directly elected a Congressman into the Presidency was James Garfield in 1862. Stop dreaming. Ron Paul gets elected for the same reason the rest of them do, he brings home the pork into his district.

Stop buying into this silly bull$h!t the media is, "holding Ron Paul back". The people simply don't want him, period. He's too radical, and he comes off as a crackpot. He's too soft on terror, and he doesn't see Iran as a threat. Even now. His brainless disciples follow him with no mind of their own, slobbering over every word he says. Ron Paul's own political base is his worst enemy. They scare people. "Knowledgeable and informed? You've got to be kidding me. Informed about what? They don't have a clue, and totally lack any common sense.

Do you honestly think this idiot is going to close 800 military bases around the world if he got elected, when Hussein couldn't even close GITMO after he made it one of the biggest planks in his political platform? His isolationist policies didn't work 70 years ago, and they won't work now. His own colleagues in Congress would shut down all of his crackpot policies he wants to initiate so fast your head would spin. Look at Hussein. He had a Democratic House and Senate and what did he get done in 2 years? It took months of political wrangling to get Hussein Care passed. And when it finally did it was a watered down version that no one wanted. Not the single payer system he had so envisioned. Where is his "jobs bill" going? Nowhere, just like the rest of his silly $h!t. Ron Paul would get even less passed if he were elected, which he never will be.

Let's move on to economics. You talk about him and his ilk being "knowledgeable"? All this clown does is harp on and on about how we need to go back to a precious metal standard. Anyone with a 6th grade education knows full well there isn't enough gold in existence to back our currency. If there was it would no longer be so "precious". There is not one single nation on the surface of this planet that presently is on ANY type of precious metal standard. Harp all you want about the "fiat dollar", you're going to have it for a long time to come so get used to it. The same with the Federal Reserve he and his cronies so hate.

You Ron Paul lovers need a lesson in simple arithmetic as well. This guy continually polls in the single digits because the people of this country simply don't want him, yet you think he is the only one who can beat Hussein? Where are you going to get the other 40+% of the vote you are going to require, out of thin air? Ron Paul is a 2 time loser who is going for three straight. He'll succeed. In a few months his campaign will do what it always does. It will run out of money and interest will peter out. He'll go back to Texas where he belongs. He's a nice guy with Presidential ambitions that never materialized. You could fill a basket ball court a$$holes to elbows with others like him. Guys like Ron Paul, along with the people who support him, are they're own worst enemies. They will never be accepted by the mainstream voters. You don't like that, and think it should change. The fact of the matter is it won't. Everything else is just wishful thinking on your part, and we all know where that leads. The same place as his campaign....nowhere.

[billt]

You realize that Anwar Al-Awlaki was a US citizen, right?  You are also familiar with the 5th amendment to the Con forbidding a citizen being deprived of their life without due process?  You realize that Awlaki was never indicted, never tried before a jury, never afforded legal counsel. 

So if the president decides that YOU OR YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS are terrorists he can execute you without having to give any legal justification, even after you are dead.

Listen to yourself. And you wonder why Paul can't poll consistently over 10%? It's because people who think in such a warped manner support him. Awlaki was an enemy combatant. They have no rights, citizen or not. They are not afforded due process, nor should they be. Wake up. This guy was involved in all but countless plots to kill Americans. It is pure luck he didn't kill more than he did. He got what he deserved. Let's hope others like him do as well.

It is absolute nonsense the way you Ron Paul disciples try to connect some imaginary dots from the killing of Awlaki, a proven threat to America and it's citizens, to the government assassinating Vinnie the cab driver for too many unpaid parking tickets. This is precisely why Ron Paul won't get elected. Most Americans with an ounce of common sense don't want to be associated with such stupid, foolish, hypothetical thinking that has as much chance to materialize as Ron Paul's foolish policies. 

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[Herknav]

Palin was a state governor, and this guy ran a pizza franchise, and she was "inexperienced", and this guy isn't?

He didn't run a franchise.  He was CEO for the entire company.

[Herknav]

435 people are elected to the House EVERY 2 years, not all of them are presidential material.  In fact who was the last Congressman to be elected President?  Garfield, and who the hell was he?
Precisely why:
1.  We got BHO in the first place
2.  Ron Paul and his supporters are looked at as kooks

And ifwhen Ron Paul isn't the nominee and BHO loses what say you?  Eat your hat?  Your words?  Ron Paul's shorts?

So, it Ron Paul's fault that BHO is the President?  Do tell.  McCain needed a lot more than Paul's .03% to beat Obama.

[billt]

He didn't run a franchise.  He was CEO for the entire company.

So what? This country is up to it's eyeballs in CEO's. While it gives them economic and business experience, it by no means qualifies them to be President. Ross Perot proved that if he proved anything. CEO's operate like God in their own little kingdom they set up for themselves, through the corporate structure they and their board of directors create. When a President reaches the White House he must be able to work with people he not only disagrees with, but many times may even hate. Presidents can't fire Senators and Congressmen. They can only try to change their thinking to be more in line with what they want. That takes political skill and maneuvering. CEO's simply know how to give orders. If the person on the receiving end doesn't carry them out to the satisfaction of the CEO, he or she is simply gotten rid of. That's not the way it works in Washington politics.

Remember Ross Perot's silly comment he made during the debates when he said, "When I get in there these guys in the $1,500.00 suits and Alligator shoes will be GONE!" What did he think, that he could simply fire elected officials? That is the problem with CEO's and corporate king pins. That attitude will just get you shut down in Washington's inner circle. One only has to look at Hussein's "Jobs Bill". "Pass this bill RIGHT NOW!", he demanded. It went straight down the toilet because he cannot work with either House. He has no operative political skills. That is not something you learn in a corporate board room, or in law school. There is something to be said for good political skills. If you want to get anything done in Washington, that is.

[billt]

It won't matter because Ron Paul has already started a Revolution.

And in 3 separate Presidential political campaigns, spanning 23 years where has it gone? You guys really have a difficult time with reality, don't you? This guy will be dissolved into dust, and he will have achieved no more politically than he has right now. Much the same can be said of his kid. He simply parrots everything the old man says. If the message isn't being listened to in the first place, a younger messenger won't change the way it's received.

[Magoo541]

So, it Ron Paul's fault that BHO is the President?  Do tell.  McCain needed a lot more than Paul's .03% to beat Obama.

Not what I said, the reason BHO was elected is because many people sat at home and didn't vote for McCain because he wasn't what the rank and file wanted.  But any opposition to the nominee is a dynamic force, it's not one for one, and it has a much bigger impact than just the .03% you cite.

If you want a Libertarian Party you don't create it from the top down with a president, you start at the base, a grass roots level movement, like the Tea Party.

Why is it that Ron Paul supporters think they are smarter than everyone else?