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Solus

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Is Voter Fraud Rampant?
« on: October 17, 2011, 08:27:23 AM »
Taxation Without Representation was a big issues in the founding of this country and the American Revolution.

How will Everything Without Representation go over and where might it lead?

From a news story.

Thousands of fraud cases just 'tip of iceberg'

Minnesota Majority reported that its investigations of fraud allegations arising from the 2008 general election in the state so far have resulted in 113 convictions. Another 200 or so cases are being processed or are pending but might not be completed because the statute of limitations expires next month, three years after the election.

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And a stunning 2,800 or more cases cannot be prosecuted because of the wording in the state law that essentially requires voter fraud participants to admit they knew what they were doing was illegal in order for a conviction to be obtained, the organization said.

Full article here:  http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=355461

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Re: Is Voter Fraud Rampant?
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2011, 08:55:43 AM »
Is Voter Fraud Rampant? .... Well BHo bought the election - you figure it out. He will do it again too - Four more years & we are gone!!!

You must act now - do not be lulled into thinking 2012 will fix it. We'll be lucky if there is a 2012 election; much less an honest one.

Be prepared.
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Re: Is Voter Fraud Rampant?
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2011, 09:00:43 AM »
Is voter fraud rampant?  The answer is easy to find.  Just listen to how loud the squeals are when something is done to stop it!
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Re: Is Voter Fraud Rampant?
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2011, 09:32:17 AM »
Yes, and it will continue to be as long as the Dems are allowed to define ID and citizenship verification as some how infringing on the Constitution they otherwise ignore.

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Re: Is Voter Fraud Rampant?
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2011, 09:44:40 AM »
Actually, I was aware that it is rampant. 

I was really asking where is it going to lead.

For me, I feel voter fraud should be treated as Treason because it weakens or destroys the citizen's ability to change the system with non-violent means.  Thus it leads to and mandates the overthrow of the established government by force.

On a local level, like Chicago, it is viewed as less of a threat and some reluctant acceptance.

But when it is promoted on the national level by organizations like ACORN or any of it's AKAs, and the New Black Panthers the threat is pervasive and endangers the future of the country.
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Re: Is Voter Fraud Rampant?
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tombogan03884

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Re: Is Voter Fraud Rampant?
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2011, 09:54:26 AM »
Actually, I was aware that it is rampant. 

I was really asking where is it going to lead.

For me, I feel voter fraud should be treated as Treason because it weakens or destroys the citizen's ability to change the system with non-violent means.  Thus it leads to and mandates the overthrow of the established government by force.

On a local level, like Chicago, it is viewed as less of a threat and some reluctant acceptance.

But when it is promoted on the national level by organizations like ACORN or any of it's AKAs, and the New Black Panthers the threat is pervasive and endangers the future of the country.

The only way it could Constitutionally be classed as treason would be under the "adhering to our enemies" clause.
After all, the whole purpose of the Cold War was the conflict between international communism and Capitalism.
By that definition the entire Dem party is guilty of treason.
But we have lost that one so it doesn't matter.

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Re: Is Voter Fraud Rampant?
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2011, 08:39:55 PM »
Is voter fraud rampant? Not a chance! What you all don't understand is we are now using the Richard Daley method of voting. I refer, of course, to "vote early and vote often". Voter fraud? No way.

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Re: Is Voter Fraud Rampant?
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2011, 08:45:11 PM »
Yes, it is very rampant.  I highly suggest the documentary that aired on HBO a couple years ago entitled "Hacking Democracy".  As long as Diebold voting machines are used we will never have a remotely honest election.

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Re: Is Voter Fraud Rampant?
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2011, 09:57:24 PM »
I know that it is against my nature to be contrary. ;) However I will suggest this argument. Voter fraud is a freaking red herring. Conservatives always bitch when the previously non-voting public (blacks, young people, the poor) unexpectedly show up. In fairness the Dems bitched when evangelicals started doing the same thing in the seventies and eighties.

What I suggest its that its BS. The real scandal is how few people actually do vote. Not one of our last four Presidents won a majority of eligible or even registered voters. The guy with his finger on the button has about a 25-40% endorsement from those eligible to vote. Its far worse in off year elections for Congress, and by year elections for state office where turnout is often below 30% are even worse. Screw voter fraud. Its a bad thing, but a few thousand bogus ballots are peanuts compared to the millions of ballots never cast. I am in favor of mandatory voting if it includes the option of a null ballot (ie. "none of the above"). If the null ballots win, a new election is scheduled. I think the fact that folks do not care enough about their country to cast a ballot is a greater danger to the republic than fraud that has a marginal impact. I like the system in Greece. If you don't vote your passport is cancelled until the next election. You live with consequences of your own inaction. It will never happen here, but it is poetic justice. ;D

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Re: Is Voter Fraud Rampant?
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2011, 10:04:15 PM »
Similar to the European "Confidence" votes, it can be called any time , if the regime loses they have X amount of time to hold elections .

 

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