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SKS Rifle Owner Prevails in Chicago “Assault Weapon” Case
« on: October 21, 2011, 07:05:27 PM »
FAIRFAX, Va. --(Ammoland.com)- In a case supported by the NRA, David Lawson, who had previously been a plaintiff in McDonald v. Chicago, challenged the decision by the City of Chicago not to allow him to register two normal SKS rifles with fixed ten-round magazines.

Although the rifles do not meet Chicago’s definition of an “assault weapon,” Chicago refused registration because they were “convertible” into “assault weapons.”

The city denied the registration in spite of the fact Chicago has a separate provision for dealing with registered rifles that are converted into “assault rifles” after registration.

Following an initial rejection and preliminary appeal before a hearing examiner, the case was appealed to the City Court. The judge ruled the hearing examiner had to take evidence as to whether the guns were actually capable of accepting a detachable magazine, which is one of the criteria to define a rifle as an “assault weapon,” and sent the case back to the hearing examiner.

At the hearing, Mr. Lawson and his counsel presented the SKS rifles for examination by the court, but the two “expert witnesses” for the City, both police officers, refused to even touch them.

    The judge ruled in favor of Mr. Lawson and ordered the rifles to be accepted for registration.

This case shows how far the city will go to deny law-abiding citizens their Second Amendment rights, refusing to abide by its own regulations until forced by the court.

http://www.ammoland.com/2011/10/21/sks-rifle-owner-prevails-in-chicago-assault-weapon-case/
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Re: SKS Rifle Owner Prevails in Chicago “Assault Weapon” Case
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2011, 07:31:29 PM »
You have to BEAT it into their heads.....(from a Judiciary Ruling),...because the 2nd Amend. is irrelevant, personal Constitutional Rights are ignored...Supreme Court decisions are blown off, and "they" determine what the rules, reg's, and ultimately the law is, until a Court defeats them,....

is the Cities Appeal filed yet?  Damn the cost of a broke city,.......just keep those SKS rifles from lawful citizens....

At the hearing, Mr. Lawson and his counsel presented the SKS rifles for examination by the court, but the two “expert witnesses” for the City, both police officers, refused to even touch them.


Hello!!!! Thankfully, it was not the Ninth Circus Court....

Darth Rahm should have a horse head in Lawson's bed shortly, and his house will be under surveillance and he will be raided for "something" in the near future.....

It's the Chicago way,....and it's for the children....

Thomas Jefferson: The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny of government. That is why our masters in Washington are so anxious to disarm us. They are not afraid of criminals. They are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants."
Col. Jeff Cooper.

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Re: SKS Rifle Owner Prevails in Chicago “Assault Weapon” Case
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2011, 07:38:20 PM »
You have to BEAT it into their heads.....(from a Judiciary Ruling),...because the 2nd Amend. is irrelevant, personal Constitutional Rights are ignored...Supreme Court decisions are blown off, and "they" determine what the rules, reg's, and ultimately the law is, until a Court defeats them,....

is the Cities Appeal filed yet?  Damn the cost of a broke city,.......just keep those SKS rifles from lawful citizens....

At the hearing, Mr. Lawson and his counsel presented the SKS rifles for examination by the court, but the two “expert witnesses” for the City, both police officers, refused to even touch them.


Hello!!!! Thankfully, it was not the Ninth Circus Court....

Darth Rahm should have a horse head in Lawson's bed shortly, and his house will be under surveillance and he will be raided for "something" in the near future.....

It's the Chicago way,....and it's for the children....


Actually, I think it will be the reverse. Remember that Rahm was the chief advisor to "why are you jackasses paying $1200 for an AK since I've never given a damn about that issue Obama"? On the other hand Rahm doesn't want to end his career as mayor of Chicago. Why would he start a fight over sixty year old weapons? He's more likely to put the horse's head in those cops beds and say "Why are you two pukes making me enemies over nothing when there is a governor's race to be won"?
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Re: SKS Rifle Owner Prevails in Chicago “Assault Weapon” Case
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2011, 07:47:31 PM »
The 10/17 issue of Shotgun News has part one of a 2 part series on "Modernizing the SKS".
Part 1 is devoted entirely to converting it to take AK mags and involves about 4 separate milling operations, so it isn't all that "easy".

It's not up on their website yet, but here's the link for later use.

http://www.shotgunnews.com/

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Re: SKS Rifle Owner Prevails in Chicago “Assault Weapon” Case
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2011, 08:04:35 PM »
The 10/17 issue of Shotgun News has part one of a 2 part series on "Modernizing the SKS".
Part 1 is devoted entirely to converting it to take AK mags and involves about 4 separate milling operations, so it isn't all that "easy".

It's not up on their website yet, but here's the link for later use.

http://www.shotgunnews.com/

This guy does it in under 1 minute.

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Re: SKS Rifle Owner Prevails in Chicago “Assault Weapon” Case
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2011, 08:28:58 PM »
Haz, look at the mag. it is a dedicated SKS mag.
The SGN article is about converting to standard AK mags there are length differences in the bodies of the 2.
We all know that using AK mags makes it much more evil and deadly.

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Re: SKS Rifle Owner Prevails in Chicago “Assault Weapon” Case
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2011, 08:59:52 PM »
Haz, look at the mag. it is a dedicated SKS mag.
The SGN article is about converting to standard AK mags there are length differences in the bodies of the 2.
We all know that using AK mags makes it much more evil and deadly.

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Re: SKS Rifle Owner Prevails in Chicago “Assault Weapon” Case
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2011, 09:03:08 PM »
Honestly, I don't see the point, one of the advantages for the VC of using the SKS instead of the AK is that there was no detachable one to be lost or damaged.
Or to take up space in the limited supply chain.
The shape of the mag also makes it more suitable for shoving under the seat of a pick up truck, since it is far more snag resistant than than the longer 30 rounder.

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Re: SKS Rifle Owner Prevails in Chicago “Assault Weapon” Case
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2011, 08:48:25 AM »
Minor disadvantage of the non-AK removable magazines used in and SKS.

A full magazine cannot be loaded with the bolt closed, so you can't have, say, 30+1.  Best you can do is 29+1.

Not a really big deal, but there.

I would guess it would be the same with an AK magazine.  I do not own an AK, so I don't know if they are designed the same.

I do know that my Saiga 12 will not take a full 12 round magazine with the bolt closed either. 

Perhaps it is a design feature to simplify the manual of arms.  A magazine is used till it is empty and the bolt is held open.  Insert a new Magazine and release the bolt.

No alternate procedures possible for loading full magazines.
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