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AK-47-Type Guns Are Turning Up in U.S. More Often
« on: March 26, 2008, 08:51:40 PM »
Another POS report from the anti-gun AP. This only the first part of a long article. Here's the link to the whole thing:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,341988,00.html

According to the AP, it's all the guns' fault. Also quotes the twerp LEO Chief from MN who wants to arm all the cops with assault weapons.

KENNER, La.  —  The cake had been served and the children were jumping up and down in a big, inflatable castle when the birthday party turned to bedlam.

Clarence McGraw's jaw dropped as he saw the visitors coming, guns drawn. The screaming began.

Children ran everywhere in the courtyard of the low-income apartment complex; adults fell to the ground. Bullets flew. The killers wounded three youngsters, but for reasons police can't explain, it was 19-year-old McGraw they were after.

As McGraw lay in the center of the green square, the gunmen stood over him and fired again. He was shot 15 to 20 times in all.

The Sept. 15 killing was remarkable in that it took place in the most innocent of settings — the fifth birthday of twin boys. But it was unremarkable in that one of the guns brandished was an AK-47-type rifle — a powerful, rapid-fire weapon that has long been used in Third World conflicts but is increasingly being used in American street fights.

Figures from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, obtained by The Associated Press through public records requests, show a marked increase in the number of AK-type weapons traced and entered into the agency's computer database because they had been seized or connected to a crime.

The number of such tracings rose even while the federal assault weapons ban was in effect and has continued to climb since its expiration.

Since 1993, the year before the ban took affect, ATF has recorded a more than sevenfold increase in 7.62x39mm guns — which includes the original Russian-made AK-47 and a variety of copycats from around the world. The number of AK-type guns rose from 1,140 in 1993 to 8,547 last year.

Since 2005, the first full year after the ban's expiration, ATF has recorded an 11 percent increase in such tracings.

ATF says the increases in the first half of the 1990s are partly the result of wider usage of its weapons database by local law enforcement agencies. But after that point, the numbers reflect a real increase in tracings of AK-type guns, the agency acknowledged.

The numbers corroborate what police chiefs around the country have been saying: AKs and other so-called assault weapons are terrorizing their communities and endangering their officers.

The numbers are reflected in some of the most horrifying violence of the past year, including a deadly shooting rampage at a department store in Omaha, Neb.

They're reflected in the growing number of police forces equipping their officers with higher-powered guns to match the bad guys' firepower.

And they're reflected in a single 72-hour period in September that started with the shooting of four Miami-area officers and ended here, in a drab apartment complex just outside New Orleans.
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Re: AK-47-Type Guns Are Turning Up in U.S. More Often
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2008, 12:08:06 AM »
Something else about this stupid article there is no way to know if it is really an AK (I mean full auto).

I was at the range south of Ft Lincoln when a Morton County Deputy was qualifying with an AK style rifle...they were in to big of a hurry to get to the Pizza Ranch for me to ask any questions.

This article seams to ignore the fact that this isn't the first time police were outgunned.  Shoot, Depression Era gangsters would break into NG armories to get their full-autos

I sent a message to the Tribune questioning some of the assertions, but we'll see what they have to say about it later.
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Re: AK-47-Type Guns Are Turning Up in U.S. More Often
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2008, 11:10:24 PM »
There are a lot of guns besides the ak that shoot 7.62x39..........Idiots
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Re: AK-47-Type Guns Are Turning Up in U.S. More Often
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2008, 04:57:46 PM »
Wish a few would show up on my doorstep!!
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Re: AK-47-Type Guns Are Turning Up in U.S. More Often
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2008, 06:49:30 PM »
I think this and the other article are part of the public relations build up for a new assault on our rights. A deliberate disinformation campaign in my view.

Get ready if the anti gunners get control of Congress and the White House again. I am not talking about Republicans or Democrats. I am talking about Obama / Clinton and Pelosi et al. We do have Democrat friends and RINO enemies. If the wrong people win, you can expect a new AWB that's worse and has no sunset provision.

Be darn sure to vote in November and vote for the best person who has a chance to win and supports the 2A. I think this time that includes McCain as the best choice.

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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2008, 06:57:37 PM »
I think this and the other article are part of the public relations build up for a new assault on our rights. A deliberate disinformation campaign in my view.

Get ready if the anti gunners get control of Congress and the White House again. I am not talking about Republicans or Democrats. I am talking about Obama / Clinton and Pelosi et al. We do have Democrat friends and RINO enemies. If the wrong people win, you can expect a new AWB that's worse and has no sunset provision.

Be darn sure to vote in November and vote for the best person who has a chance to win and supports the 2A. I think this time that includes McCain as the best choice.

I think McCain is a POS, as I have said many times on this forum. But despite what looks like a favorable opinion from the Supreme Court I have to agree.

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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2008, 06:59:42 PM »
Certainly Bill. And, as has been previously mentioned, McCain's VP choice is critical, in the event he succumbs to his war injuries and the rigors of the office.
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2008, 08:09:59 PM »
Certainly Bill. And, as has been previously mentioned, McCain's VP choice is critical, in the event he succumbs to his war injuries and the rigors of the office.
Mac.

The VP position is very important as are the rest of the 545 people who rule our lives. Watch who you vote for in Congress.

Sadly, ND is a staunchly Republican state - the state legislature is about 90% Republican - that continues to send liberal dems to Congress - Dorgan, Conrad and Pomeroy. We just cannot seem to shake them off and get some decent people in there. Don't know why.
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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2008, 08:27:15 PM »
The VP position is very important as are the rest of the 545 people who rule our lives. Watch who you vote for in Congress.

Sadly, ND is a staunchly Republican state - the state legislature is about 90% Republican - that continues to send liberal dems to Congress - Dorgan, Conrad and Pomeroy. We just cannot seem to shake them off and get some decent people in there. Don't know why.

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Re: AK-47-Type Guns Are Turning Up in U.S. More Often
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2008, 09:34:29 AM »
I wish someone would drop a couple of AK's at my doorstep...the $%$^ things are so expensive now I'm sticking with AR's and SKS's.
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