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Re: American Guns
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2011, 01:44:54 PM »
It's good entertainment....not one shred of reality.

So much of it is faked for the camera. A retail store with their poor attitude, poor customer service, and ridiculously high prices would not survive.

Question....

How many handguns does the underage daughter own?

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Re: American Guns
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2011, 04:15:01 PM »
I like most of the Sons of Guns shows.  The Ma Deuce episode was good, the supressor made for an AK was kewl.  Now...the shotgun arrow thing...not what I care for.  Mac 10's...kewl.  I recognized the LP training range where they had the Mac 10 shooting portion and the "football shoot".  OK..the football shoot may not be what we've come to expect from our Outdoor Channel but it did portray an NFL player as a shooter...and by normalizing guns with a "celebrity" that positively influences people across generations.

There is quite a bit of reality in the products they build in Baton Rouge, supressors, AK's, etc.  A lot of the modifications they make in AK's are in great demand.  However, the typical Fudd is probably disoriented and out of his element (comfort zone) when seeing this sort of thing.  Uncle Fudd has a propensity to pee down both legs when someone around him supports legal machine guns and supressors...."What do you need that for?" is the generally condescending remark (see reference to 2nd Ammendment meant hunting only, no really, it did).  Uncle Fudd is scared that this will wake people up to the fact that guns exists and someone may try to ban his guns....

The gun culture is not just the "father-son hallowed handed down hunting culture..,", though I am a participant in that aspect.  My observation is that someplace back in the 50's-60's somebody mistook the 2nd Ammendment to mean for hunting purposes only and that stance lost a lot of gun rights.  CCW and every red-blooded boy's desire for an AR or the mysterious AK is bringing us from that severely limited view of legal gun ownership. 

Though I find American Guns low on my watch list, I think it's great that gun shows have been mainstreamed. 

Having these shows to choose from helps the gun culture counter the anti-gun crap I've had to watch for 40 years....and it's bringing people into the culture.  A good thing.

We might prefer Shooting Gallery, Best Defense or other Outdoor Channel favorites, but without a doubt any positive gun show that is popular with the general population is a very positive thing. 

I still get pissed thinking about the Uncle Fudds I know who thought compromise would secure their gun rights when they supported handgun restrictions and Bill Clinton's ban.....like the anti-gunners were ever going to stop there. 
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Re: American Guns
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2011, 04:25:35 PM »
Personally, I would be just as happy watching an all gun special of "Pawn Stars" or "Antiques Road Show".

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Re: American Guns
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2011, 04:27:04 PM »
I like most of the Sons of Guns shows.  The Ma Deuce episode was good, the supressor made for an AK was kewl.  Now...the shotgun arrow thing...not what I care for.  Mac 10's...kewl.  I recognized the LP training range where they had the Mac 10 shooting portion and the "football shoot".  OK..the football shoot may not be what we've come to expect from our Outdoor Channel but it did portray an NFL player as a shooter...and by normalizing guns with a "celebrity" that positively influences people across generations.

There is quite a bit of reality in the products they build in Baton Rouge, supressors, AK's, etc.  A lot of the modifications they make in AK's are in great demand.  However, the typical Fudd is probably disoriented and out of his element (comfort zone) when seeing this sort of thing.  Uncle Fudd has a propensity to pee down both legs when someone around him supports legal machine guns and supressors...."What do you need that for?" is the generally condescending remark (see reference to 2nd Ammendment meant hunting only, no really, it did).  Uncle Fudd is scared that this will wake people up to the fact that guns exists and someone may try to ban his guns....

The gun culture is not just the "father-son hallowed handed down hunting culture..,", though I am a participant in that aspect.  My observation is that someplace back in the 50's-60's somebody mistook the 2nd Ammendment to mean for hunting purposes only and that stance lost a lot of gun rights.  CCW and every red-blooded boy's desire for an AR or the mysterious AK is bringing us from that severely limited view of legal gun ownership. 

Though I find American Guns low on my watch list, I think it's great that gun shows have been mainstreamed. 

Having these shows to choose from helps the gun culture counter the anti-gun crap I've had to watch for 40 years....and it's bringing people into the culture.  A good thing.

We might prefer Shooting Gallery, Best Defense or other Outdoor Channel favorites, but without a doubt any positive gun show that is popular with the general population is a very positive thing. 

I still get pissed thinking about the Uncle Fudds I know who thought compromise would secure their gun rights when they supported handgun restrictions and Bill Clinton's ban.....like the anti-gunners were ever going to stop there. 

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Re: American Guns
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2011, 04:34:22 PM »
The biggest problem those shows have is the format, " Reality TV" is a BS oxymoron.
It doesn't really matter what the subject, if it's a "reality show" it's not going to impress people who do it for real.

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Re: American Guns
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Re: American Guns
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2011, 06:12:06 PM »
Well....I gave it up after the "spy car" episode....Rich finds the dumbest ways to solve problems....plus he finds the most expensive ways to do things (build a SAA from scratch instead of tuning up a Ruger or USFA....  ::) )......at least the SOG projects make some sense....
Why, yes....I'm the right-wing extremist Obama warned you about... ;D

I just wish Texas was as free and independent as everyone thinks it is...   :'(

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Re: American Guns
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2011, 07:58:26 PM »
Heck, I'd love to have a SAA that was built from scratch, just for me.....but I can't afford it.

As to the "projects" I agree that they are way over the top in price, for the most part. I sat there the other night commenting to my son about how they were over charging the poor guy for the ten barrel volley gun. They charged $11,000 for something I could have done for $2500 (or less) and I guarantee my welds would have looked better.   ;)
I guess it falls into the category of the "fool and his money" thing.

I agree about the general fluff of the show, but like Rastus pointed out, it is still "positive press" for the gun folk. IMHO.
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Re: American Guns
« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2011, 09:30:41 PM »
The thing that bothered me about the built from scratch SAA was they used gold and silver PAINT for the embellishments rather than doing it correctly  with gold and silver inlay. You know the first time any bore solvent hits it ,it will wash off. If I had spent that kind of money I'd be pissed.
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