1916 DWM Deutsche Luger Angebot Bericht Super pistole!

[twyacht]

Well, I finally put my C&R to something other than a Moisin. I teased a post earlier this week about picking up an all matching numbered 1916 DWM P-08, 9mm Luger. Which I did...I also ordered two NIB Meg-gar 8rd. mags, and manual.

After a thorough dose of reading the Skennerton Manual, and than some Birchwood Casey, Hoppe's No. 9, CLP, Murphy's Oil Soap for the grips, and TLC, (listening to Beethoven), it went to the range today.


Amazing ease of field stripping.




I tried to get a good pic with my old camera of how shiny the barrel is, and the rifling is very prominent.



Token toe job,...


For those Russian Squirrels that invade my yard,...

Ammo was regular nothing fancy PMC 115gr. FMJ ammo. (1 box). I started at 10 yds. and felt I was cheating, so I pushed it to 15 yds.

Most groups were similar or worse, but it was the shooter not the pistol.
Than I got cocky and ran it all the way back to 25 yds.


Somehow I have this odd feeling this pistol saw the back of a few sorry souls heads back in the day..

The Report: Trigger is light, like in really light.Manual says 2-3 pounds, I don't have a trigger pull measuring device, but it ain't much above it. There is no take up, it just fires with no mechanical reset of the trigger. The slide resets the action, the trigger just releases it. Very different than almost all other semi-autos. The mechanics of the trigger are as simple as can be until you stare in amazement at how it interacts with the toggle-breech bolt, (which only has four parts.), on the upper. The barrel is fixed.
Recoil is less than my full size FNH 9. Perhaps it's felt recoil, but the pistol doesn't fire and feel like a standard semi-auto. Very fast follow ups, the toggle moves so fast you don't even see it cycle, except for the round arching over your right shoulder.

Out of a 50 rd. initial test, I had one failure to eject, at round 47. I wanted to do a rapid fire test with the last mag, the pistol was quite warm, and I blame the mag and/or cheap ammo.. Those new Meg-gar mags are very tight. I think if I just let the mags break in, it will be fine. As slower rates of fire were flawless. There is also a loaded chamber indicator that is engraved "Geladen" for loaded, the safety is the standard "Geischert" engraving when the safety is engaged.



Since I am a lefty, and they don't make Luger Lefty Holsters, I found an interesting twist. The WWI German Calvary rode with the Luger in a cross draw fashion, butt forward on the right side, but it is a lefthanded holster, with belt loops, and two extra mag carriers. Very well made leather reproduction, with a 100% guarantee.

SCORE...!!!  Bought it from the International Military Antique Website. http://www.ima-usa.com/ ( put it in your favorites or bookmarks )...

All in all, I am very glad to have acquired one. I don't have any safe queens, I get stuff to shoot and admire. It is a piece of history, and STILL combat accurate and reliable. (Probably try a wee bit better ammo next time.)

Definitely one of the top 10 Handguns of all time. Any and all tips I haven't picked m25's brain over are greatly appreciated and welcome.

(Thanks again m25 for the advice on what to look for, and your general gun guru self)..

Good bye ich wünsche ihnen alles gute.   

[fullautovalmet76]

This is pretty cool!

What's the significance of a Curio & Relics license?

[Ichiban]

Way cool!

[twyacht]

This is pretty cool!

What's the significance of a Curio & Relics license?

Rifles, Pistols, and even Machine Guns, over 50 years old,(there are a few exceptions), are considered Curio & Relics. There are four classifications, historical value, collectible value, museum value, and age, etc,... The permit is $30 for 3 years. What it allows is a C&R Licensed individual to purchase eligible firearms directly from a seller...J&G, classicarms.us, southernohioguns, ohioordinance,etc,...with no NICS check, and direct delivery to you across state lines, or as they say, Interstate Commerce.

You keep a bound book of your purchases, document all the serial #'s, and than go enjoy them. As time goes on, even more firearms become C&R eligible.

There are limitations to selling and what the ATF considers "operating a business", which requires a real FFL...But if you want to collect and purchase older firearms, it does have significance.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/curios-relics.html#definition

Also, copies submitted to Midwayusa, and Brownells.com, CMP, and others, offer discounts for purchases of anything. Mine took less than a month to get, print the form, enclose a check, get your license. It comes with all the specifics.

Next will be a Tokarev delivered right to my door, with 1,260 rds. for $79 from J&G.

Just ask that ol' Haz, or that 7 foot tall merchant marine deepwater.....It does have merit to get one. For example, go to a gun show, see a C&R eligible firearm, provide the seller a copy of your license, and it's a license to licensee transaction. No NICS, no BS. Out the door you go with your firearm.

Hope that helps.

tw

[fullautovalmet76]

Rifles, Pistols, and even Machine Guns, over 50 years old,(there are a few exceptions), are considered Curio & Relics. There are four classifications, historical value, collectible value, museum value, and age, etc,... The permit is $30 for 3 years. What it allows is a C&R Licensed individual to purchase eligible firearms directly from a seller...J&G, classicarms.us, southernohioguns, ohioordinance,etc,...with no NICS check, and direct delivery to you across state lines, or as they say, Interstate Commerce.

You keep a bound book of your purchases, document all the serial #'s, and than go enjoy them. As time goes on, even more firearms become C&R eligible.

There are limitations to selling and what the ATF considers "operating a business", which requires a real FFL...But if you want to collect and purchase older firearms, it does have significance.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/curios-relics.html#definition

Also, copies submitted to Midwayusa, and Brownells.com, CMP, and others, offer discounts for purchases of anything. Mine took less than a month to get, print the form, enclose a check, get your license. It comes with all the specifics.

Next will be a Tokarev delivered right to my door, with 1,260 rds. for $79 from J&G.

Just ask that ol' Haz, or that 7 foot tall merchant marine deepwater.....It does have merit to get one. For example, go to a gun show, see a C&R eligible firearm, provide the seller a copy of your license, and it's a license to licensee transaction. No NICS, no BS. Out the door you go with your firearm.

Hope that helps.

tw

It does help. Thanks!

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[kilopaparomeo]

BEAUTIFUL!  I have a DWM M28 Finnish Luger...little longer barrel and in as good of shape as yours.  They are a work of art.  Very accurate also.

KPR

[kmitch200]

With nice toys like that one, you're headed toward the "I hate you" list. 

[MAUSERMAN]

Thats one hell of a new toy. Congrats. Thanx for the link on the FFl license.

[tombogan03884]

What is the staple looking piece at the rear of the receiver ?
Is it where they located the lanyard loop ?
I'm glad to hear that it works so well for you, it contradicts everything I've read about them in gun magazines .
But since it isn't the latest greatest I probably should not be surprised.   

[CJS3]

Congrats on the new toy.  Remember, He who dies with the most toys, WINS!