some times you really have to wonder...pink slip time...

[Magoo541]

I have found a philosophy during my studies that successful companies employ, "Hire for attitude, train for skill."

It works in lower skill areas and can be effective when interviewing a group of skilled individuals.

Trust is a fragile thing.  You are trusted until proven otherwise, after that you have a HUGE hole to dig yourself out of and it takes time.  Pink slip would be my course of action as well.

[MikeBjerum]

Fire him right now!  In a written letter with no verbal exchange tell him that he is fired, and give him the time allotted to return all company items.  Do not retain any reimbursement from his last check, but rather file a civil claim against him - either a small claims court case or even a lien.

All of this will do three things:
1.  Help keep him from receiving unemployment benefits that come out of your pocket;
2.  Keep him from filing a legal claim against you for unpaid wages;
3.  Put the incident in to the legal system.  This is good because in this age you can not tell future employers what he did, but if they do a background check it will show up.

Being an employer can really suck.  Especially when you hire idiots!

[Timothy]

Fire him right now!  In a written letter with no verbal exchange tell him that he is fired, and give him the time allotted to return all company items.  Do not retain any reimbursement from his last check, but rather file a civil claim against him - either a small claims court case or even a lien.

All of this will do three things:
1.  Help keep him from receiving unemployment benefits that come out of your pocket;
2.  Keep him from filing a legal claim against you for unpaid wages;
3.  Put the incident in to the legal system.  This is good because in this age you can not tell future employers what he did, but if they do a background check it will show up.

Being an employer can really suck.  Especially when you hire idiots!

Good points, all!  Having never employed anyone, I hadn't considered this...

Edit  I will add this as pertains to CT unemployment compensation.  If you're terminated without cause it's either a short term or permanent layoff and therefor eligible to benefits.  If you're fired for no other reason than the boss "didn't like your vibe" than you will more than likely win your case with the state arbitrator.

If you're terminated for CAUSE, such as theft or other justifiable circumstances then you're pooched.

[Tyler Durden]

okay, I gotta ask, "what is several dollars more than the going rate?"

and just what kind of construction business is this that you have to have a CDL + HAZMAT?

and where are you located?

I had a boss once...he was so tight he squeaked.  He was looking to cut corners every chance he got, and in the process violate regs.

Anywhooo...he relayed a story to me once about how he had a coffee cup filled quarters sitting on his desk.  on top he had say like 4, one dollar bills.

then he noticed one day that two or three of the dollar bills were missing.

so he calls out one of his employees about it, figures it is him, and then fires him.

now this is the kicker...that has me still shaking my head after so many years working for the guy....the boss said, "I didn't fire him because he stole from me.  I fired him because he was dumb about it.  He should have just taken the money in quarters instead and I would have never noticed it."

 

a few years ago, I noticed the old boss's equipment up for sale on Craig's List.  He had gone out of business.  I had a good laugh when I saw that.

Anywhoooo....since this forum seems so hip on protecting the 2nd Amendment....how about a little love for the 6th Amendment....ya, know, the one that says you have the right to face your accusers/witnesses.

Have a meeting with him inside your office in private and show him the statement from the gas card, and tell him what you think happened.

See what his reaction is.  Within 30 seconds you'll know if it was done maliciously with intent to steal/defraud.

And you'll know at least it was done man to man.

[MikeBjerum]

Tyler:

If you had paid attention you would be aware that TAB deals in house painting and some remodeling.  Commercial vehicles used in construction, and HazMat due to paints and associated items and the lead mitigation he is involved in.  This business is in California, so he deals with unreal regulations.

Sixth Amendment - This is private business and not a public setting.  His employee has a credit card and misused it.  If it were a emergency situation the employee has had time to contact TAB.

I can't speak to TAB's generosity or tightness, but the stupidity of the employee says it all.

* I can't believe I am spending this much time helping and defending TAB    Will someone please just shoot me!

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[TAB]

And maybe his wife grabbed the wrong card to fill her tank.  You should at least hear his side of the the story before you just can his ass.  Maybe he is a thief who deserves to be fired.  Maybe there is a reasonable explanation and you are about to screw someone because you are jumping to conclusions.  YMMV

if that was the case, how would the wife know to punch in the billing zip code here, not thier house?


He was shocked,  "your firing me over that?"

I told him, your lucky I'm not filing charges.

[Tyler Durden]

well, good, he's gone.

and you got him to admit to it, sort of.

I would have replied with "How would you feel if I stole 50 bucks off of you?"

How I hate thieves!   

[Ichiban]

if that was the case, how would the wife know to punch in the billing zip code here, not thier house?


He was shocked,  "your firing me over that?"

I told him, your lucky I'm not filing charges.

We don't deal much with the credit card codes around here.  That does put it in a different light.

Sounds like he has entitlement issues as well.  Now he has time to go hangout with the Occupy Whatever crowd.

[MikeBjerum]

well, good, he's gone.

and you got him to admit to it, sort of.

I would have replied with "How would you feel if I stole 50 bucks off of you?"

How I hate thieves!   

Tyler,  A comment like "How would you feel if I stole 50 bucks off of you?" would have put TAB in trouble in many states.  In fact, in many stated he went too far with the comment about filing charges.  I refer back to the comments I made on a written notice and keeping your mouth shut.  That comes from attorneys (I actually just sat in a session on just that thing last Thursday), and is not something I pulled out of a posterior orifice.

[TAB]

its a gray area here.

In a perfect world, I would have taken it out of his last check, but I can't do that.

If I really wanted to screw the guy, I would have waited for it to get over a total of $400.  That way it would have been a felony. then gone to the DA, and had him arrested on "the clock".  Thats not me, and frankly its not worth my time.


Reality is, the point was made to the rest of the employees that theft will not be tolerated, I got rid of a theft.  Its win win on my part.


as of 11:50 am this morning, I have almost 200 filled out apps and resumes for the position.   Out of the 1st 50s of so I've gone thru only 2 were from guys that didn't meet the job reqs.