Ron Paul Off The Rails Yet Again

[billt]

Now he thinks we should be "nice" to Iran, and "be friends with them", in order to stop them from developing nukes. I've tried so hard to like this guy, but he makes it impossible with all of the whacked out statements he makes like this.

He talks as if these people can actually be trusted with our best interest. This guy is so far out there where the buses don't run, he actually believes if "we leave them alone, they'll leave us alone". And he has said as much.

This is exactly why this guy can't get out of polling in the single digits, and has zero chance of getting the Republican nomination, let alone getting elected. Iran is doing everything possible to get Israel to strike it. And they will. Then, the libtards and "progressive thinkers" in this country, as well as Europe will make them out to be "war mongers". It is unbelievable how people like Paul, along with many of his supporters, can be sucked into this stupid, senseless kind of thinking.

Anyone who supports Iran's development of nukes, along with the Palestinians, is supporting the killing of Jews period. These people don't want "peace" with Israel, or anyone else for that matter. They want them exterminated, and have said so many times. Ron Paul is acting like a naive fool, and his poll numbers show it. Yeah, he's got his hard core bunch that will march lock step right off the cliff with him like the Lemmings they are. About the only good thing you can say about most Ron Paul voters is if he doesn't run, (which he won't), they are already claiming they won't vote at all. As far as I'm concerned that's a good thing because they shouldn't be in the first place.

[mauler]

Demagogue any?

[tombogan03884]

jimmy carter tried that, they told him to piss up a rope.
Ollie North tried it and they just took advantage of him.
Bush 1 tried and they hid Saddams Air Force for him.
Clinton tried it and they yessed him to death while building their Nuke program.
W tried to work with them and they sheltered Al Queda and the Taliban, continued to fund their terror groups, intervened in Iraq and continued their nuke program.
BO has tried to establish a dialog with them and we get that sawed off little prick in NY demanding the destruction of Israel, telling us what rotten bastards we are while continuing their terror campaigns and nuke program.
Now RP wants to be "friends" with them ?

Can you say "SLOW LEARNER" ?
how about "F*CKING IDIOT" ?

[billt]

jimmy carter tried that, they told him to piss up a rope.
Ollie North tried it and they just took advantage of him.
Bush 1 tried and they hid Saddams Air Force for him.
Clinton tried it and they yessed him to death while building their Nuke program.
W tried to work with them and they sheltered Al Queda and the Taliban, continued to fund their terror groups, intervened in Iraq and continued their nuke program.
BO has tried to establish a dialog with them and we get that sawed off little prick in NY demanding the destruction of Israel, telling us what rotten bastards we are while continuing their terror campaigns and nuke program.
Now RP wants to be "friends" with them ?

Can you say "SLOW LEARNER" ?
how about "F*CKING IDIOT" ?

That's good. I'm stealing that. 

[warhawke]

Ever wonder why the Iranian's hate us?
We put the Shah in power in 1941
In 1953 Iranian Nationalists nationalize the oil industry because the Brit's were ripping them off and the Shah flees
The CIA organizes a coup to depose the Nationalist government and reinstall the Shah.
The CIA helps to organize, train and support the SAVAK, one of the most vicious and brutal secret-police organizations in the world
The Shah and SAVAK brutally suppress any moderate political opposition in the country for 25 years, leaving only the Ayatollahs
The CIA attempts to overthrow the Iranian Revolution after the Ayatollah Khomeini assumes power
The coup fails and the US convinces Iraq to invade to destabilize the Iranian government
The Iran-Iraq war is the longest and one of the bloodiest wars of the twentieth century
The US allows and assists Iraq in obtaining large quantities of weapons from China, France, the Soviet Union and South Africa
The US assists Iraq in obtaining Chemical and biological weapons and the means to produce same
The US provides political cover to Iraq in the UN when attempts to condemn Iraqi use of WMD are floated
1,000,000+/- (about 100,000 from WMD's) Iranians are killed in the war out of a population about 40,000,000

I ain't saying that Iran is the nicest bunch of people on the planet, but if another country had done to us what we have done to them, we wouldn't like them much either. Americans have this knee-jerk reaction to Iran because of the Embassy hostage crisis and we refuse to see that a huge part of the issue between us and them is OUR fault. I don't think talking to them is going to do much good, but decades of warmongering, embargoes, sanctions and threats haven't done us much good either. I say get out and let the Middle East do what it wants, there ain't a damn thing there worth one drop of American blood or one red American cent.

P.S. GW II knew damn well Iraq had WMD's, his daddy kept the receipts

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[mauler]

Ever wonder why the Iranian's hate us?
We put the Shah in power in 1941
In 1953 Iranian Nationalists nationalize the oil industry because the Brit's were ripping them off and the Shah flees
The CIA organizes a coup to depose the Nationalist government and reinstall the Shah.
The CIA helps to organize, train and support the SAVAK, one of the most vicious and brutal secret-police organizations in the world
The Shah and SAVAK brutally suppress any moderate political opposition in the country for 25 years, leaving only the Ayatollahs
The CIA attempts to overthrow the Iranian Revolution after the Ayatollah Khomeini assumes power
The coup fails and the US convinces Iraq to invade to destabilize the Iranian government
The Iran-Iraq war is the longest and one of the bloodiest wars of the twentieth century
The US allows and assists Iraq in obtaining large quantities of weapons from China, France, the Soviet Union and South Africa
The US assists Iraq in obtaining Chemical and biological weapons and the means to produce same
The US provides political cover to Iraq in the UN when attempts to condemn Iraqi use of WMD are floated
1,000,000+/- (about 100,000 from WMD's) Iranians are killed in the war out of a population about 40,000,000

I ain't saying that Iran is the nicest bunch of people on the planet, but if another country had done to us what we have done to them, we wouldn't like them much either. Americans have this knee-jerk reaction to Iran because of the Embassy hostage crisis and we refuse to see that a huge part of the issue between us and them is OUR fault. I don't think talking to them is going to do much good, but decades of warmongering, embargoes, sanctions and threats haven't done us much good either. I say get out and let the Middle East do what it wants, there ain't a damn thing there worth one drop of American blood or one red American cent.

P.S. GW II knew damn well Iraq had WMD's, his daddy kept the receipts

Way to go Warhawke.  It is a breath of fresh air to hear this from a forum member.  I'm sure you are familiar with Operation Ajax and the role it played in overthrowing the democratically elected Mohammad Mossadeqh.  You are right to point out that most Americans would be outraged had Iran done to us what the US government has done to Iran.  It is a sorry history of the government and its bankster/oil cronies inflicting death and misery on untold numbers of civilians all in the pursuit of oil, money and power.  This recent round of saber rattling against Iran is but another chapter in the sorry history of Persia being subjugated by the NWO.

[tombogan03884]

If by "moderate parties" you are referring to the Tudeh party, you should be aware that was the Iranian communist party.

[Pathfinder]

Way to go Warhawke.  It is a breath of fresh air to hear this from a forum member.  I'm sure you are familiar with Operation Ajax and the role it played in overthrowing the democratically elected Mohammad Mossadeqh.  You are right to point out that most Americans would be outraged had Iran done to us what the US government has done to Iran.  It is a sorry history of the government and its bankster/oil cronies inflicting death and misery on untold numbers of civilians all in the pursuit of oil, money and power.  This recent round of saber rattling against Iran is but another chapter in the sorry history of Persia being subjugated by the NWO.

This is the first time I have ever heard anyone express concern over poor, pitiable Persia. While all you said is true, it is very recent history, and plays into the hands of those who claim that if we were only nice to the Iranians, they wouldn't hate us so much. In fact, Persia has been the center of evil and destruction for thousands of years, subjugating millions of people, and even burning Athens. After his rise, Alexander offed Darius and burned Persepolis in retribution and then moved on to Afghanistan.

BTW, you forgot to wrangle in the Brits who created Iran out of whole cloth after WWI (along with Iraq, Syria, et al. ad nauseum). Might as well include them in the blame game.

[mauler]

This is the first time I have ever heard anyone express concern over poor, pitiable Persia. While all you said is true, it is very recent history, and plays into the hands of those who claim that if we were only nice to the Iranians, they wouldn't hate us so much. In fact, Persia has been the center of evil and destruction for thousands of years, subjugating millions of people, and even burning Athens. After his rise, Alexander offed Darius and burned Persepolis in retribution and then moved on to Afghanistan.

BTW, you forgot to wrangle in the Brits who created Iran out of whole cloth after WWI (along with Iraq, Syria, et al. ad nauseum). Might as well include them in the blame game.

I include the British.

[twyacht]

Negotiating with the crocodile, hoping it will eat you last,.....

All have FAILED with IRAN,...

Playing nice: FAILED
Playing hard: FAILED

Now the little sawed off monkey, who is a puppet for the real power, tows the line for a regime hell bent on NO PEACE, with Israel or the United States Of Infidels...

And we can negotiate a "good" deal with Iran in what way? Grab your ankles and bend over now? Or Later,....

Rationalize it for me because I'm a slow learner...