ANA!!, discuss

[philw]

with in the last 2 weeks

we have lost 3,  and just a day ago  3 more were injured by so called rouge ANA members 

there was also a shooting earlier in the year with similar incident,   

how are we meant to train them to look after them selves if they are trying kill our men and women of AFD??

[fightingquaker13]

with in the last 2 weeks

we have lost 3,  and just a day ago  3 more were injured by so called rouge ANA members 

there was also a shooting earlier in the year with similar incident,   

how are we meant to train them to look after them selves if they are trying kill our men and women of AFD??

Okay, I'll start the discussion. ANA, AFD, WTF?
FQ13

[philw]

Okay, I'll start the discussion. ANA, AFD, WTF?
FQ13

ADF  Australian Defence Force

ANA Afghan National Army


FQ  aren't you meant to be the edumicated one  with all that uni learning?

[fightingquaker13]

ADF  Australian Defence Force

ANA Afghan National Army


FQ  aren't you meant to be the edumicated one  with all that uni learning?

Too many acronyms. I kind of liked the days when people actually spelled things out with real words. KWIM?
FQ13

[Dakotaranger]

Too many acronyms. I kind of liked the days when people actually spelled things out with real words. KWIM?
FQ13

tomatato; tomatah...let's just call the whole thing off XD

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[jnevis]

with in the last 2 weeks

we have lost 3,  and just a day ago  3 more were injured by so called rouge ANA members 

there was also a shooting earlier in the year with similar incident,   

how are we meant to train them to look after them selves if they are trying kill our men and women of AFD??

There in lies the problem with Afghan and Iraqi security forces/military.  They need people so they'll look the other way on certain "indescretions."  Then you add to it that no one over there identifies themselves as Afghan, Iraqi, or Suadi.  It's tribe, sect, province, THEN country.  Now you have guys from opposing tribes or sects in the same unit and they hate eachother enough to go blasting around the compound at each other.  No concern for who's in the crossfire.  Oh BTW, the Taliban, Iran, and any one of a number of other insurgent groups are more than happy to plant people into the security forces to wreak havoc.

[Ulmus]

Oh BTW, the Taliban, Iran, and any one of a number of other insurgent groups are more than happy to plant people into the security forces to wreak havoc.

That's the biggest understatement of the year.

[Magoo541]

Oh BTW, the Taliban, Iran, and any one of a number of other insurgent groups are more than happy to plant people into the security forces to wreak havoc.

Or women teachers in girls only schools, female sucide bomber groups....Wait that was the last NCIS.... But still it shows what extents they are percieved to go to.

[tombogan03884]

There in lies the problem with Afghan and Iraqi security forces/military. They need people so they'll look the other way on certain "indescretions."  Then you add to it that no one over there identifies themselves as Afghan, Iraqi, or Suadi.  It's tribe, sect, province, THEN country.  Now you have guys from opposing tribes or sects in the same unit and they hate eachother enough to go blasting around the compound at each other.  No concern for who's in the crossfire.  Oh BTW, the Taliban, Iran, and any one of a number of other insurgent groups are more than happy to plant people into the security forces to wreak havoc.

We have seen the same thing here in Police Depts. NY and Miami both suffered major corruption scandals due to volume based hiring.

[jnevis]

Or women teachers in girls only schools, female sucide bomber groups....Wait that was the last NCIS.... But still it shows what extents they are percieved to go to.

It isn't a perception. A large percentage of "insurgents" in Iraq and Afghanistan are not in fact FROM Iraq or Afghanistan.  The Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps is chartered to protect Iranian Islamic power, with the Quds Force tasked with spreading it abroad.  There are ties between Quds Force, the Kurds in Iraq, and the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan going back decades.  They don't care who the enemy is as ong as their version of Islam is the victor.  The shaped charge IEDs being found all over Iraq are Iranian anti-vehicle mines.