Another Convert Into What Is The 2nd Amendment.

[tombogan03884]

The guy who threatened this (and who was arrested) is a mental patient living at home with his parents. In fairness, he no more represents the OWS crowd than Klansmen and Tim Mcveigh types represent the Tea Party. Every Movement has its wing nuts. I have never said I agree with these folks. I do think that the source of their frustration isn't too different than ours. While they may not be 100% allies, they might be useful on issues like NAFTA, police powers, free speech, and government transparency. One needs to think strategically. You take what you can get while you can get it and then renegotiate later.
FQ13

Dude, the KKK has endorsed the OWS crowd.

[fightingquaker13]

Dude, the KKK has endorsed the OWS crowd.

The KKK endorses anyone who hates the government and will get them in front of a news camera. They are the white version of Al Sharpton.
FQ13

[tombogan03884]

http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=17894.0

http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=17902.0

http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=17954.0

[JC5123]

The guy who threatened this (and who was arrested) is a mental patient living at home with his parents. In fairness, he no more represents the OWS crowd than Klansmen and Tim Mcveigh types represent the Tea Party. Every Movement has its wing nuts. I have never said I agree with these folks. I do think that the source of their frustration isn't too different than ours. While they may not be 100% allies, they might be useful on issues like NAFTA, police powers, free speech, and government transparency. One needs to think strategically. You take what you can get while you can get it and then renegotiate later.
FQ13

He represents EXACTLY who these people are! You seem to think that you can use these people to advance some kind of agenda? What do you think the WH is doing? That's WHY BHO supports them. He can use the violence and destruction that they perpetrate to advance HIS agenda. You know the destroy American and everything she stands for agenda. Then again, you voted for him, so maybe that's what you want? 

[tombogan03884]

He represents EXACTLY who these people are! You seem to think that you can use these people to advance some kind of agenda? What do you think the WH is doing? That's WHY BHO supports them. He can use the violence and destruction that they perpetrate to advance HIS agenda. You know the destroy American and everything she stands for agenda. Then again, you voted for him, so maybe that's what you want? 

Wow, I let him save face by just saying he was lazy and stupid.   

[Sponsor]

[JC5123]

Wow, I let him save face by just saying he was lazy and stupid.   

Just getting tired of trying to reason with the unreasonable. They don't want to acknowledge the facts and see the occupy crowd for what they are then they deserve what's coming.

[tombogan03884]

Just getting tired of trying to reason with the unreasonable. They don't want to acknowledge the facts and see the occupy crowd for what they are then they deserve what's coming.

Again I will give FQ the benefit of a doubt and say he has his head in the sand, instead of where I really think he has his head. 

[fightingquaker13]

http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=17894.0

http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=17902.0

http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=17954.0

Try this one, the KKK endorsing McCain. Did he want their support? Does it reflect on you as a McCain voter? I think not.
FQ13 who is not endorsing the OWS. Just saying that there is more to the story here than can be dismissed in a Sean Hannity sound bite. Lets understand that 'gotcha" BS like this aside, the left and right seem to agree that there is something rotten in DC and Wall Street, and it needs to be fixed. How we fix it is up for debate. That it needs to be fixed seems pretty self evident. I am hoping the folks on the hill are getting the message. Otherwise Tar and Hemp are going to be growth industries in the next couple of years.

[Solus]

I don't know much about what McVeigh thought or believed.

But when FQ got me thinking about the feelings I have about it, I find I think he would be more likely to side with the OWS than the Tea Party.

He didn't see like the type to try to work for change by using the voting booth.

[JC5123]

Wow, I let him save face by just saying he was lazy and stupid.   

Ok, I may have crossed a line with that, and if I did I apologize. I did not intend to get personal. I just don't understand how someone who is intelligent, and knows how to spot a threat (from being here as long as FQ has) fails to see the OWS crowd as such a threat. These people ARE dangerous and prone to violence. Sure you try to single out one or two and say that they don't represent the group. But look at who is behind the group, funneling money in, and giving them instructions.

I would put money on it, that you could pull aside anyone who is rallying these protesters and you would find that they are ACORN, or union, or any of the other scumbag organizations that have said they support it. Most of these protesters are nothing more than useful idiots trying to feel important. (Or just looking for cover to cause problems) Look hard at the leadership. It is a very frightening list.