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More foolishness from the ATF
« on: November 19, 2011, 11:28:05 AM »
Not content with their current F&F stupidity, we now get another ATF ruling to make us safer;
http://www.gundigest.com/gun-rights/atf-classifies-chore-boy-pot-scrubber-pads-nfa-firearms?et_mid=526218&rid=232922262
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Re: More foolishness from the ATF
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2011, 12:07:17 PM »
Next they'll start requiring a permit for 20oz water bottles and a roll of duct tape. ::)

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Re: More foolishness from the ATF
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2011, 01:15:48 PM »
How is this any more senseless than the Clinton era decision to put "taggants" in fertilizer ?

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Re: More foolishness from the ATF
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2011, 01:35:45 PM »
How is this any more senseless than the Clinton era decision to put "taggants" in fertilizer ?
That actually did make a little sense. First of all, I don't know if they are really there, or if they work or not. That's kind of the point. It would make me a bit more leery of buying a bulk order of fertilizer to make the amfo. That's if it were me. If I were either a complete idiot or a trained terrorist, I'd either know whether it were an issue or have never heard of them. No effect either way. As far as the moderately dangerous redneck goes, it might complicate the plan. Of course, I thought they reformulated the amount of nitrate used so the stuff didn't blow up like it used to. I haven't needed to remove a stump in a while so I haven't followed the issue too closely. ;)
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Re: More foolishness from the ATF
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2011, 03:17:54 PM »
the problem with the taggants was they were easily remover with a centrifuge,It would have been a better idea to put them in BUT DON'T TELL ANYONE YOU DID IT... ::) ::) Freekin morons
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Re: More foolishness from the ATF
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2011, 03:49:41 PM »
The original article is in the Gun Rights Examiner.  No I'm not casting any dispersions on those folks, I just like to verify things before I go posting them.  This is just stupid enough to be a hoax. 

Can any one point me to another source?   I've search the ATF web page and don't see anything.
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Re: More foolishness from the ATF
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2011, 04:32:27 PM »
the problem with the taggants was they were easily remover with a centrifuge,It would have been a better idea to put them in BUT DON'T TELL ANYONE YOU DID IT... ::) ::) Freekin morons
To expand a little...
How does that prevent it from being made into a bomb?  If a terrorist blows up a bomb they usually will tell you they did it.  Just like cops don't prevent crime they document it after the fact.  So in reality this just makes ATF's job easier?  Whatever... ::)
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Re: More foolishness from the ATF
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2011, 07:18:17 PM »
You are 100% correct, it doesn't stop them from making the bomb,It just makes it easier to follow up on where the materials were bought.
"If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim." - Jeff Cooper
Pericles--"Freedom is only for those who have the guts to defend it".

The problem with society today is that not enough of us drink wine from our enemies skulls”.

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Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars!!!
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"When tyranny becomes law rebellion becomes duty" Thomas Jefferson
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Re: More foolishness from the ATF
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2011, 09:40:07 PM »
If a terrorist blows up a bomb they usually will tell you they did it.

Or go back and try to get the deposit for the now shredded truck.  ::)

Investigators determined that the vehicle had been rented by Mohammad Salameh, one of Yousef's co-conspirators.[21] Salameh had reported the van stolen, and when he returned on March 4, 1993, to get his deposit back, authorities arrested him.[22]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing
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Re: More foolishness from the ATF
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2011, 10:02:20 PM »
Or go back and try to get the deposit for the now shredded truck.  ::)

Investigators determined that the vehicle had been rented by Mohammad Salameh, one of Yousef's co-conspirators.[21] Salameh had reported the van stolen, and when he returned on March 4, 1993, to get his deposit back, authorities arrested him.[22]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing

Not quite dumb enough to be a suicide bomber, but close. ::)
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PS I don't want to sound unfair to muslims. Mcveigh was pulled over with a gun in his lap. He didn't shoot the cop and drive off. Why? Did he think it might get him in more trouble than the dozens of counts of murder? It must be something in the fertilizer fumes that causes brain damage.

 

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