Author Topic: Athiests Want Cross Removed From Camp Pendleton. Guess What Marines Said?  (Read 5887 times)

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Re: Athiests Want Cross Removed From Camp Pendleton. Guess What Marines Said?
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2011, 12:01:01 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance

The Pledge has been modified 4 times, all 4 required Congressional approval.
The addition of the words "under God" were the latest being introduced by Ike and approved by Congress.

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Re: Athiests Want Cross Removed From Camp Pendleton. Guess What Marines Said?
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2011, 12:38:31 PM »
tom, I believe they would be a little more respectful. 

I believe it would be more like "F*ck you, sir!"


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Re: Athiests Want Cross Removed From Camp Pendleton. Guess What Marines Said?
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2011, 12:54:58 PM »
tom, I believe they would be a little more respectful. 

I believe it would be more like "F*ck you, sir!"


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Re: Athiests Want Cross Removed From Camp Pendleton. Guess What Marines Said?
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2011, 01:45:51 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance

The Pledge has been modified 4 times, all 4 required Congressional approval.
The addition of the words "under God" were the latest being introduced by Ike and approved by Congress.

That makes is come close to falling under "law".

Problem I have with this in The Pledge is that some folks who feel as strongly about their religion as the believers in God, as in the Jedeo/Christian God, believe in theirs, are forced to either not pledge to the country they love or make a compromise and remain silent for that passage while still participating in an act that acknowledges another "god"

God, being the jealous God he is, might take exception to that.

While I expect adults to be able to handle all this without to much suffering, I do consider it different for children.

With children being so tolerant of kids who are different in almost any way, those who don't believe in the J/C God should receive little hassle or rejection when they sit out the pledge or clam up for that passage.
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Re: Athiests Want Cross Removed From Camp Pendleton. Guess What Marines Said?
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2011, 01:50:55 PM »
The Pledge is not mandatory, you will find the Constitution and US law use the phrase "Pledge or affirmation".

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Re: Athiests Want Cross Removed From Camp Pendleton. Guess What Marines Said?
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2011, 01:54:54 PM »
The Pledge is not mandatory, you will find the Constitution and US law use the phrase "Pledge or affirmation".


I know, but I'd not like to be the 10 year old who sits it out when all the other kids in class are standing and pledging.

There might be no legal pressure to make the pledge, but I'd bet there'd be some peer pressure.

Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
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— Daniel Webster

 

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