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Re: The Debate Can Now Be Put To Bed
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2011, 06:51:52 PM »
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Re: The Debate Can Now Be Put To Bed
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2011, 07:18:37 PM »
Well, I do have to admit it would be the best looking Glock in production.

Start with a Glock 21 and wrap it up to look/feel like that and you will have something.

Performance and reliability of a Glock and the look and feel of a 1911    ;D ;D
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Re: The Debate Can Now Be Put To Bed
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2011, 07:55:07 PM »


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Re: The Debate Can Now Be Put To Bed
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2011, 08:18:29 PM »
Look at it this way - that is the only way Glock could get the grip angle right.

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Re: The Debate Can Now Be Put To Bed
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2011, 08:09:08 AM »
Look at it this way - that is the only way Glock could the grip angle right.

At one time there was a third part Glock frame manufacturer and they I believe they did make one with a 1911 grip angle.  I'll see if I can find any historic info.

Here is the one I was thinking of.   It does offer a 1911 grip insert for it's frame.  The frames are steel, aluminum or titanium and are replacement frames for Glocks.   Now you can have a Glock and make it as heavy as a 1911.  

http://www.ccfraceframes.com/home.php

I also found this from Lone Wolf.   Seems to be a polymer frame with the feel of a 1911 grip angle...so the ad says.  

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/non-xd-handguns/153916-change-your-glock-grip-angle-1911-a.html

http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Products.aspx?CAT=3168


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Re: The Debate Can Now Be Put To Bed
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Re: The Debate Can Now Be Put To Bed
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2011, 09:26:05 AM »
Nothing special.  Looks like it is just some markings that have changed.

External controls are still the same which would indicate it's still only a 1911 on the inside too.   ;D ;D






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Re: The Debate Can Now Be Put To Bed
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2011, 09:33:01 AM »
At one time there was a third part Glock frame manufacturer and they I believe they did make one with a 1911 grip angle.  I'll see if I can find any historic info.

Here is the one I was thinking of.   It does offer a 1911 grip insert for it's frame.  The frames are steel, aluminum or titanium and are replacement frames for Glocks.   Now you can have a Glock and make it as heavy as a 1911. 

http://www.ccfraceframes.com/home.php

I also found this from Lone Wolf.   Seems to be a polymer frame with the feel of a 1911 grip angle...so the ad says. 

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/non-xd-handguns/153916-change-your-glock-grip-angle-1911-a.html

http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Products.aspx?CAT=3168




I would question the wisdom of "just" changing the grip angle since that effects the angle the rounds are presented to the chamber.
It could lead to some severe feed issues.

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Re: The Debate Can Now Be Put To Bed
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2011, 09:48:30 AM »
I would question the wisdom of "just" changing the grip angle since that effects the angle the rounds are presented to the chamber.
It could lead to some severe feed issues.

That would be a consideration.  

It is possible it might still work...and it is possible the angle of the magazine well would not need to be changed as much as the grip angle...giving a non-concentric mag well.  There is a lot of "dead space" in a standard Glock grip so some canting of the mag well in the grip would be possible....rather, keeping the mag well in the same or close to the same orientation as possible while shifting the grip angle around it.

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Re: The Debate Can Now Be Put To Bed
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2011, 11:51:58 AM »
I think only the backstrap is a differnt angle on those frames. They eliminate the hollow part.
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Re: The Debate Can Now Be Put To Bed
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2011, 11:55:30 AM »
Both good answers.
I'm not against the idea, but I would want to test it strenuously before I trusted it.

 

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