Ron Paul supporters?...

[fightingquaker13]

After the 2000 election there was considerable sturm und drang about getting rid of the EC, with lots of "commitment" to its abolition - Hitlery was one of the most passionate about it.

Obviously it would be impossible to get all of the necessary states to do that, so the lefties followed another attack with some success. Almost under the radar, about a dozen state legislatures have changed the rules for the allocation of Electors. These states now require the electors to cast their vote based solely on the winner of the national popular vote. Different tactic, same result.

True, but its  still Constitutional. Remember, there is no requirement to even have a popular vote for President. The state's are well within their rights to allow the Legislature to select the EC delegates. It won't happen, but it could. Likewise, most states require EC delegates to follow the state's vote. Again, a "roque" delegate would arguably be within the purview of the Constititution. Tom printed out Article II. It says the states would select the EC delegates. There is no requirement, beyond state law that they vote the way they were instructed to, as state law is preempted by the Constitution in this case.
FQ13

[Rastus]

.......... Could you see these guys reactions if the President himself had someone shot for Treason?! The Navy blowing up GreenPeace boats for hindering commerce? Please..

In a perfect world.......   

[Timothy]

I don't support the elimination of the Electoral College either.  I was referring to their analysis of states that were close.

I guess my issue is that folks always blame Perot for honestly doing what he thought was right.  Nobody ever brings up the fact that Bush I lost a whole lot of support by himself.  Nobody brings up the fact that Clinton, like him or not, was charasmatic.  In my opinion, all of these had an effect on that election.

Agreed...my wife, and her entire family in MA, voted for Perot as is their right!

No doubt he shot himself in the foot but its not about one sound bite and the public (and the left) pounced on that!

Snake Oil Salesman...

[tombogan03884]

Agreed...my wife, and her entire family in MA, voted for Perot as is their right!

No doubt he shot himself in the foot but its not about one sound bite and the public (and the left) pounced on that!

Snake Oil Salesman...

Tim, I voted for Perot, not because of "No new taxes" but because of the machinegun law.
Another reason was because Perot tried to explain exactly what he would do and how.
Now people joke about his charts and graphs but the sad truth is that Perot lost in large part because the voters, who have the attention span of a chipmunk, prefer to be BSed in sound bites rather than missing"Dancing with the Stars to actually be informed.
There were other things that contributed to Perot's defeat, but the primary problem is that the average citizen is not competent enough  to wipe their own ass with out instructions.

[Timothy]

There were other things that contributed to Perot's defeat, but the primary problem is that the average citizen is not competent enough  to wipe their own ass with out instructions.

I keep mine written on the back of my left hand!  I wipe with the right!

 

Like Ron Paul in all of his bids, Perot wasn't gonna win that election and the country, so far, won't support a third party candidate.  I didn't hate Perot and I don't think that I've said that in any of my posts.  Correct me if I have...

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[tombogan03884]

I keep mine written on the back of my left hand!  I wipe with the right!

 

Like Ron Paul in all of his bids, Perot wasn't gonna win that election and the country, so far, won't support a third party candidate.  I didn't hate Perot and I don't think that I've said that in any of my posts.  Correct me if I have...

His chance was in the primaries.

[Timothy]

His chance was in the primaries.

Didn't he run under the Independent and Reform party?

[tombogan03884]

IIRC he ran in the primaries as an R to get on the ballot since 3rd parties don't have primaries.

[Herknav]

Another reason I voted for Perot was the way he handled rescuing his EDS employees after Tehran fell.  If you haven't read Ken Follett's non-fiction account of it in On Wings of Eagles, you owe it to yourself.

Oh, and Bush I still got my state's electoral votes, so don't tell me my vote went to Clinton...   

[tombogan03884]

Soldier of Fortune carried a series of articles of the rescue based on interviews with Bull Simmons