Ron Paul supporters?...

[GeorgeCook]

Ron Paul is a phony who never intended to win.
If he had he never would have mentioned his drug policy that after 80+ years of indoctrination was guaranteed to alienate enough people to keep him from having to do any work.
He's just a con man sucking in donations from chumps.
As for a "tribute", that's just something to pacify the dumb people who can't comprehend that if you can't win against your own party it's a waste of time to run you against the other party.

LMAO..... 

[billt]

Ron Paul is a phony who never intended to win.
If he had he never would have mentioned his drug policy that after 80+ years of indoctrination was guaranteed to alienate enough people to keep him from having to do any work.
He's just a con man sucking in donations from chumps.
As for a "tribute", that's just something to pacify the dumb people who can't comprehend that if you can't win against your own party it's a waste of time to run you against the other party.

All true. The first and foremost job of ANY political candidate, regardless of party, is to get elected. It is extremely easy to say the wrong thing when you are trying not to. Hussein's, "You didn't build that!" is a perfect example. Whenever Ron Paul spoke he'd stick his foot in his mouth. It was as if he was trying not to get elected.

A lot of his lock step followers were all dumb enough to think, "He's just being honest!" In reality he was just being an idiot. For a guy that spent 30 years in government, he sure as hell didn't learn much, if anything. Except of course for earning a living and a big fat pension. All on the taxpayers dime.

[crusader rabbit]

All true. The first and foremost job of ANY political candidate, regardless of party, is to get elected. It is extremely easy to say the wrong thing when you are trying not to. Hussein's, "You didn't build that!" is a perfect example. Whenever Ron Paul spoke he'd stick his foot in his mouth. It was as if he was trying not to get elected.

A lot of his lock step followers were all dumb enough to think, "He's just being honest!" In reality he was just being an idiot. For a guy that spent 30 years in government, he sure as hell didn't learn much, if anything. Except of course for earning a living and a big fat pension. All on the taxpayers dime.

Awwww, Bill...  You're just calling Dr. Paul a freeloading, run-of-the-mill political hack 'cause it's true. 

Sheesh...  When are the sheeple going to have enough of this crapola and relegate Ron Paul to the dustbin of history?

Crusader Rabbit

[tombogan03884]

Awwww, Bill...  You're just calling Dr. Paul a freeloading, run-of-the-mill political hack 'cause it's true. 

Sheesh... When are the sheeple going to have enough of this crapola and relegate Ron Paul to the dustbin of history?

Crusader Rabbit

Like William Jennings Bryan ?
He had one speech that went over well and he gave it over and over.

[billt]

Ron Paul supporters are the ultimate sheep. They all run around quoting Patrick Henry, exclaiming LIBERTY!! in every sentence they write. Most are still in mommies basement, and wouldn't even be on the Internet if she wasn't paying their DSL bill.

[Sponsor]

[Solus]

All true. The first and foremost job of ANY political candidate, regardless of party, is to get elected. It is extremely easy to say the wrong thing when you are trying not to. Hussein's, "You didn't build that!" is a perfect example. Whenever Ron Paul spoke he'd stick his foot in his mouth. It was as if he was trying not to get elected.

As a card carrying Libertarian, I read their newsletter and much of the internal debate is about why the party sticks to their platform even though some portion or another will be viewed unfavorable by some portion of the voting populace.

Their answer is that they believe the Party was formed based upon the same principles the Founding Fathers believed when they created the Constitution.

The answer to the debate comes down to:  Do we want to do what it takes to be elected or do we want to stand by our principals and do what we think is right.?

It is still a tough question.   You can't do what you think is right if you don't get elected....

Their decision is reflected in their motto    The Party of Principle

One area where they have "backed off" of principal a bit is the issue of matching campaign funds.

On principle, they don't believe the government should be taxing at anywhere near the current rates.  Even further, they sure don't believe the government should be using the money they do collect in taxes to pay for anyone's campaign for office.

Since their opponents get a great advantage by doubling their 'war chest' and since members of the Libertarian Party are paying taxes like everyone else, they leave it up to the individual candidate to decide whether to take the matching funds or not.

True, it might be foolish to not "play the political game" and choose your policies based upon which way the wind is blowing, but then then that is what many dislike about almost all of the incumbents.

[tombogan03884]

Do the Dems talk about how they are going to tax you out of your shorts ?
Do the Republicans make an issue of they fact they will be less hostile to "Faith based" organizations ?
Of course not, any one with a shred of sense knows that those things will alienate a certain percentage who might otherwise support them.
Any one who is not willing to "do what it takes to get elected" is nothing but a blow hard wasting the time and money of chumps.
The point of a campaign is to gain more votes than the other guy.
You craft your message to appeal to the widest audience .
Any one with half a brain understands that political "principles" don't amount to a piss hole in the snow if you can't get elected.

[Solus]

Do the Dems talk about how they are going to tax you out of your shorts ?
Do the Republicans make an issue of they fact they will be less hostile to "Faith based" organizations ?
Of course not, any one with a shred of sense knows that those things will alienate a certain percentage who might otherwise support them.
Any one who is not willing to "do what it takes to get elected" is nothing but a blow hard wasting the time and money of chumps.
The point of a campaign is to gain more votes than the other guy.
You craft your message to appeal to the widest audience .
Any one with half a brain understands that political "principles" don't amount to a piss hole in the snow if you can't get elected.

I really can't argue to much with that...you can't be effective if you don't get elected...

But all I can say is.....see where it has gotten us?

And I guess as long as Idiots are voting, it won't change

P.S.  and I did not mean anyone here was in that category....but the 'sheep'...(but maybe fish is better)...who swallow the BS hook, line and sinker.

[jaybet]

Actually the idiots vote along with the variously intelligent voters as well. The problem is, we are all mesmerized by the astounding lack of difference between the available candidates for President. To get there you can't have an agenda, you can't ever offend anyone, and you have to have as much money behind you as God does on a friday afternoon. That makes for a bunch of poor choices.  The sad converse to that is that anyone who is different (like Paul) is viewed as unworthy simply because he has not achieved the astounding ass-hat status of the "real"candidates.  It's a lazy, broken system that is self defeating and keeps us all paying the tab for the political class.

[Solus]

Actually the idiots vote along with the variously intelligent voters as well. The problem is, we are all mesmerized by the astounding lack of difference between the available candidates for President. To get there you can't have an agenda, you can't ever offend anyone, and you have to have as much money behind you as God does on a friday afternoon. That makes for a bunch of poor choices.  The sad converse to that is that anyone who is different (like Paul) is viewed as unworthy simply because he has not achieved the astounding ass-hat status of the "real"candidates.  It's a lazy, broken system that is self defeating and keeps us all paying the tab for the political class.

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