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billt

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These Idiots Are Going To Get Someone Killed !
« on: December 08, 2011, 06:10:36 PM »


This is the biggest bunch of lunacy I've ever seen! Who is just going to stand there and let you use them as a human shield? No one is going to swing a stick like that. And check out the 2 guys standing next to the target while he shoots live ammo at it!, (4:45) This is unbelievable. Talk about UNSAFE!
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Re: These Idiots Are Going To Get Someone Killed !
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2011, 06:18:04 PM »
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Re: These Idiots Are Going To Get Someone Killed !
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2011, 07:46:30 PM »
Methinks it would not meet the Pincus seal of approval..

Some instructors,(keyword some), as more often than not, are taking a hard rock music promo video into a level of SD training that has fundamental safety issues.

They have been posted here before.

I hope the weekend warriors, that pay big money for this training, go back and read The Art Of The Rifle, by Col Jeff Cooper.

Common sense is injected and deemed mandatory when it comes to the primary rule(s) of firearm safety.
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Re: These Idiots Are Going To Get Someone Killed !
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2011, 08:10:07 PM »
There appears to be too many of these guys popping up, with no way to properly vet them. It's one thing to train with someone with minimal skills. It's another to do it with someone so blatantly dangerous they could in fact put someones life in danger. What these idiots are doing borders on criminal. Not to mention the black eye it gives shooters in general. The anti gun community salivates over this kind of crap.
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Re: These Idiots Are Going To Get Someone Killed !
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2011, 09:07:04 PM »
Quote from: billt on December 08, 2011, 08:10:07 PM
There appears to be too many of these guys popping up, with no way to properly vet them. It's one thing to train with someone with minimal skills. It's another to do it with someone so blatantly dangerous they could in fact put someones life in danger. What these idiots are doing borders on criminal. Not to mention the black eye it gives shooters in general. The anti gun community salivates over this kind of crap.
So do personal injury attorneys.  ;D
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Re: These Idiots Are Going To Get Someone Killed !
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Re: These Idiots Are Going To Get Someone Killed !
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2011, 01:11:33 AM »
Yes let me stand there while you shoot in my direction. Bunch of A-holes if you ask me.  >:(
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Re: These Idiots Are Going To Get Someone Killed !
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2011, 04:59:10 AM »
There is another thread along these lines somewhere. 

I watched a progrem with Joan Landon (SP) where she was at the FBI Acadamy and was part of an entry team where they used one of their own as a hostage and went in shooting!!!!!  I guess if you know your team it might be OK but it isn't something I would want to do with a bunch of strangers.

JMHO


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Re: These Idiots Are Going To Get Someone Killed !
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2011, 09:56:24 AM »
Quote from: ellis4538 on December 09, 2011, 04:59:10 AM
There is another thread along these lines somewhere. 

I watched a progrem with Joan Landon (SP) where she was at the FBI Acadamy and was part of an entry team where they used one of their own as a hostage and went in shooting!!!!!  I guess if you know your team it might be OK but it isn't something I would want to do with a bunch of strangers.

JMHO


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The FBI HRT, Navy SEALs, and British SAS all do room clearing exercises with real people as the "hostages" (For the SAS it is sometimes the PM or a member of the Royal Family ).
But those guys do that AS A TEAM several times a day every day.
The folks in the video are just reckless mall ninjas trying to be different from the herd and setting them selves up to kill some one.
Notice James Yeager quit trying to defend his foolish "down range" training after a photographer got shot ?
These chumps are the same, some one will get shot, they'll get sued and they will go away.
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Re: These Idiots Are Going To Get Someone Killed !
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2011, 12:51:16 PM »
Quote from: tombogan03884 on December 09, 2011, 09:56:24 AM
The FBI HRT, Navy SEALs, and British SAS all do room clearing exercises with real people as the "hostages" (For the SAS it is sometimes the PM or a member of the Royal Family ).
But those guys do that AS A TEAM several times a day every day.
The folks in the video are just reckless mall ninjas trying to be different from the herd and setting them selves up to kill some one.
Notice James Yeager quit trying to defend his foolish "down range" training after a photographer got shot ?
These chumps are the same, some one will get shot, they'll get sued and they will go away.

With a video camera or a bullet? I knew about the camera filming the photographer by a target stand during live fire, I never heard about one getting shot though.

From his attitude and on-camera persona, I would not have been surprised if this had been filmed at a Yaeger training site, though. Sad, isn't it? When you try to distinguish yourself from the rest of the pack, one often takes unnecessary risks.
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Re: These Idiots Are Going To Get Someone Killed !
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2011, 01:56:52 PM »
My google foo is weak today, but a photographer was hit by a bullet at a Yeager training class with in the last year or so.
I'm pretty sure there was a thread here about it.
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