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Re: Worlds best advertisement!
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2011, 07:30:20 AM »
My mother used a flyswatter with a thin hollow plastic handle.

She would reverse it, holding it by the swatter part, and deliver discipline to our bottoms and backs of or legs.

Some time around age 12, I realized when I had pushed it to far and mom went for the flyswatter that I wasn't afraid of the minor and short lived pain any more, but at that moment I realized that I  had disappointed my mom to the point she had to revert to punishment.

I became a better kid about then....not that I was a saint, but less of a pain to mom.
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Re: Worlds best advertisement!
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2011, 09:06:33 AM »

Maybe we were all just hard headed youngins but I don't recall learning the "Why's" (or why not's) till about 12, just before the hormones kicked in and it was time to relearn everything and my brain was just about to divided, and baser motivations were coming into play..
I don't think I know anybody who got whippins after 12ish anyway.. After that point, other motivators were much more effective.. I think that still holds true for kids today. (Bearing in mind that if a guy has all girls and was never a hard headed kid, himself, none of this makes ANY sense..)
Usually, as with adulthood, the threat was more than adequate to bring the temper tantrum into perspective.. (I don't like getting hurt, therefore I don't start trouble. If I were the type to push the envelope on a pressurized situation, I would have NO business carrying..) My daddy would move his hand toward his belt buckle when we started getting out of hand. That was almost always enough, and taught us that "You may go to the mat over something, but make sure it's worth it because it may cost you to stand for something that authority frowns on"..
With the grandkids, (because 3 of the 4 of my wife's kids were already grown when I married their mother, and the fourth was 14 and beyond using something like that to change hearts and minds) I had to use the flyswatter hanging on the wall exactly three times in 17 years, two of which were in the same swat..
The thing I liked about that metal handled fly swatter was that it hurt so much to get hit with it, that I didn't have to work too hard to get the message across.. I hate violence, but kids need to be corrected when they quit listening, or else they won't be equipped when they hit the teen years and their brain and ears shut down.... A sharp pain has a remarkable ability to focus the mind.. It's the same principle as with National Defense. The more ready we are to use overwhelming/controling force, the less likely we are to have to use it... I'm afraid we have had a whole government full of examples of folks who don't have the memory of "a price to pay" or "Consider the cost", when balls or temper tantrum want to take over public policy debates, aka, old hippies who never got a whippin when they were kids...
I'm rambling now... Anyway.. I can't help but laugh remembering the corrective measures applied, and the emotions in play on both ends of the "rod", and the hardware used to deliver the message.. Much more instruction going on at that moment than may be intended.. Attitude in the face of adversity or attitude that brings adversity.. Related lessons that are best learned as a child, or many more will suffer if forced to learn those lessons later in life..
There's a big social push in schools over "bullying". Nobody likes a bully, but it seems that nobody was ever taught how to put a stop to it in the first place.. It's wrong to punish the parent for a bully kid, but toss the parent in jail for correcting the kid in the first place. Can't have it both ways.. A collective "Shame on you" is rarely enough to change the conduct of a bully kid.. A public humiliation followed by an open door back to the social circle (with an adjusted attitude) tends to work well enough on a kid, and makes for better adults, with alot fewer in jail, in the long run, too..
It ain't easy...

Great ad, though...

PS.. Sorry about the pussy comment. I was just playing around.. I wasn't trying to be mean...
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Re: Worlds best advertisement!
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2011, 10:41:18 AM »
...Bearing in mind that if a guy has all girls and was never a hard headed kid, himself, none of this makes ANY sense...

I'm a member of that group, and you're right... discussions about hitting kids with belts, boards, branches, and other sundry implements make me cringe just a little.  And I'm definitely not a namby-pamby, "just hug 'em more" kind of guy.  I've heard all of the "spare the rod and spoil the child" arguments from my parents, my wife's parents, and well-meaning friends.  My wife and I found that the most effective means of discipline with our daughter was rewarding her good behavior and re-directing her impulses to misbehave.  These techniques must be applied early and consistently during the kid's development, and to be honest, require a huge amount of patience and self-control.  My daughter is now on her own and we are very, very proud of her and her accomplishments.  While parents must always decide for themselves what will work best in their specific circumstances, I think that too often they reach for the rod before considering alternatives.


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Re: Worlds best advertisement!
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2011, 11:07:57 AM »
My mother used a flyswatter with a thin hollow plastic handle.

She would reverse it, holding it by the swatter part, and deliver discipline to our bottoms and backs of or legs.

Some time around age 12, I realized when I had pushed it to far and mom went for the flyswatter that I wasn't afraid of the minor and short lived pain any more, but at that moment I realized that I  had disappointed my mom to the point she had to revert to punishment.

I became a better kid about then....not that I was a saint, but less of a pain to mom.


Same here, but our fly-flap had a wire handle.   ;D

I hit that same point also, but at an earlier age..... I don't recall my father ever having to lay a hand or belt to my backside much past the age of eight.....after that, all he had to do was give me "the look"........... and basically for the reasons Solus stated...I realized the disappointment my actions would cause and adjusted accordingly.


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Re: Worlds best advertisement!
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2011, 03:13:42 PM »
One time my dad said, if I hear one more peep out of you... And I said peep... I got a severe beating. I never peeped again. And I never threw a tantrum at any age. I knew better. Mom couldn't hit hard enough so she'd say, wait 'til your father gets home!  :'(
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« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2011, 08:03:42 PM »
Wow.. You got off easy!!! In Middle School and Military School, they used (actual dimension) 2x4s and boat paddles... In Military School, if you got taken to the office to get it, there was a ritual where the teacher would take which ever he was using and touch the top corner of the door frame. I never came out laughing from one of those trips.. I was a big boy and I got picked up off the floor a bit, more than once in there.. It hurt...

(Ping Pong Paddles... Pussy!!!!  ;D My Drivers Ed teacher was worse than that!!!)

My junior high shop teacher had a boat paddle upon which he had emblazoned the phrase "Board Of Education".  I got that thing introduced to my keester one day.  In addition to being the shop teachwer, he was also the high school golf coach.  He swung that thing like a golf club, and I was probably one of his longer drives.
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« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2011, 08:14:14 PM »
... discussions about hitting kids with belts, boards, branches, and other sundry implements make me cringe just a little. 
If you're a kid and it's not the first time you've faced it, it'll do more than that!! It'll put a corkscrew up your spine! Application will make you run around in a circle and say "I will mind! I will mind!"..
Don't worry too much.. The VAST majority of us sit around and laugh about it.. Out of all of them, there were only a couple of whippins that I resented, or thought were unfair. As long as it's fair.. Try not to embarrasse the kid, if you're the parent. In school, you can't hide the crime or punishment either one.. It's a tool for discipline. It's not the only one, by any means. In the video, I've seen it play out where the parent simply walks away. Unless the kid is just SO HARD HEADED, he's out of thefloor in 30 seconds.Kids pull that business to get attention. Withholding the desired attention that the "episode" was meant to provoke can make the kid ask the question, "So, how do I get what I want?". Daddy's Girls are wonderful, and if I could tell a younger man what to look for in a wife, this is among the first things I would tell him, as long as her daddy wasn't a wimp and caved in everytime, so that she never got told "no". (I'm not suggestion that about you, btw.) People are basically selfish. It's only the love of God in a persons heart that will change that. Corporal punishment serves to teach respect for authority and fear of God. Nobody has to agree with me on that, and I've known plenty of folks who didn't need much in the way of discipline as a child. I've also seen some that needed it and didn't get it. Men and women, both. It's very individual, and obviously very personal.
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« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2011, 09:08:00 PM »
My junior high shop teacher had a boat paddle upon which he had emblazoned the phrase "Board Of Education".  I got that thing introduced to my keester one day.  In addition to being the shop teachwer, he was also the high school golf coach.  He swung that thing like a golf club, and I was probably one of his longer drives.
Too bad he wasn't your English or Typing teachwer.. ;D ;D ;D   
Sorry.. I couldn't help it.. If it's any consolation, that seemed to be one of the things that got my but beat in school... I don't know if they were trying to beat some smarts into it or beat the smart out of it.. Without knowing the goal, I can't tell you if they succeeded or not... ::)
I think the short female teachers and the first year male teachers were worst. I was the guy they used to make an example of.  Sometimes I didn't have to speak before I got paddled, really.. I had one teacher who was honest about it.. His famous line was "Walk in, sit down ans shut up!". I shot a warm chocolate football at him one time... I was aiming for his glasses, missed by 5 inches and hit the chalkboard.. I'm glad I missed.. I wasn't thinking much about what would have happened if I'd connected.. I didn't get caught.. Oddly enough, out of that five or so year period, he was one of the few who never laid lumber to butt on me..
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Re: Worlds best advertisement!
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2011, 11:37:07 PM »
I never trust any one who did not get their ass walloped as a kid.
And I really distrust their parents.

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Re: Worlds best advertisement!
« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2011, 01:35:58 AM »
I remember some ass whoopins that still hurt.
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