Hey, FQ! Question!

[santahog]

What would it take to create a primary challange to Obama? How do you get JOE MANCHIN, D. W.VA. in the race??? If the GOP "party guys" get their way, Romney will have the nomination. I can't vote for him. (Yell all you want. I just can't do it.) I could go along with Gingrich, but keeping a leash on him would be a BIG job.. Manchin could win his nomination. If that took place, we would win, too..
How do you actually field that one and have it noticed, (from a computer)?...

[Solus]

I'm not FQ and I'm not answering the question because of that and because I don't know.

But I'd like to make an observation.

Not voting for the Republican candidate is a vote for Obama no matter who that candidate is.

Any vote that goes anywhere except the candidate who has the greatest chance of beating Obama IS a vote for Obama.

And believe me, I am not one to vote for the lesser of two evils.  But is this race, the Democratic Evil is overwhelming.

This is not the election to make "protest votes" or "party support votes", as I do for the Libertarian Party....

We are now in the handbasket gathering speed towards the fire at the bottom of the hill....  not voting to put on the brakes because you don't like the brakeman is not the wise thing to do.

[santahog]

Is trying to beat him in the primary a protest vote? Just askin..

[Ichiban]

Gotta agree with Solus on this.  The only way that sitting this out will be acceptable is if you can prevent at least three votes for the further ruination of our country. 

Sticking to your principles and not voting for the R candidate because he/she isn't exactly what you want would be fine if it effected only you and yours.  Kind of like paying higher prices to not shop at a store you don't like for whatever reason.  I do that.

But this effects all of us as well as your children and generations to come.  I fear that we may already be too late to save what is left of the great country we once knew.

If there was going to be a D primary the only person that has the backing to take on Obama is the Hilary.  I don't see that happening - she is bidding her time and will emerge as a major force to be dealt with in 2016.

[fightingquaker13]

What he said. The only way to get a real primary challenger is if the party bosses get scared. They would be, except the GOP is putting up yahoos. No offense, but Mitt and Newt don't have the establishment DNC or even the DLC quaking in their boots, and no one wants to stage a coup unless they think they can win. Plus BO is black, no way are they going to piss off that constituency by running a white candidate in the primary, because if blacks sit out the general the party loses. It would have been like running a pro-choice jewish candidate against W. in 2004. The Christian right would have stayed home and Kerry would have won. The last two major party primary challengers, Kennedy against Carter and Buchanan against Bush sr. went down in flames, and both were blamed for making the incumbent a one termer. Not many want to follow in their footsteps. As nice as the idea is, it won't happen.
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[Timothy]

I've come to similar conclusions on Romney as the rest.  If he's the guy, I'll vote for him even though I don't like him.  

Anyone that's interested in where he was on the MA weapons ban should do the research before they judge him based on that alone.  Things could have been much worse for us here had the legislature gotten what they originally wanted.  Romney, according to our local GOAL chapter, managed to get some compromise out of the commies on Beacon Hill.  GOAL supported his efforts through it all.

If anyone is interested, I'll try and find the article again.

http://www.goal.org/newspages/romney.html

[tombogan03884]

If Romney gets the nomination I will vote against BO.
Until then I'm pushing Newt or any one else who looks like they can beat Romney.
You will not get a primary challenge to BO,even if  the party bosses didn't have a vested interest in keeping him in office it's to late to start a viable campaign to replace him.

[Ichiban]

If Romney gets the nomination I will vote against BO.

Sadly, that's what most of my votes are - a vote against someone.  It's been a long, long time since I voted FOR someone.

[twyacht]

Remember the "numbers" right now have over half of the country NOT willing to give BHO a second term....Gallup had 52% NOT re-electing him...

And his approval is in the LOW 40%. NO POTUS, was re-elected less than a year to elections that low.

THOSE numbers scare the DEMS...

Many wold LOVE if the Hildebeast would jump in.....Plus there is the puppetmaster Soros angle,....as time goes on, if the numbers stay consistent, or even get BHO into the 30% approvals,.....

You'll see something,....BUT BHO is too arrogant to go down quietly....Than there is the Chicago Way,......

Should be interesting, but we gotta get BHO out whether it's Ken Doll, or Newt.  Also, we need the Senate Back!!!!! Those Congressional votes would at least be a firewall if Republicans controlled BOTH houses....

Too many executive orders, with a Rep. controlled Congress?  You'll see demands for impeachment pretty quick, if he's re-elected.

Or we'll just start a second Civil War....

[Solus]

Is trying to beat him in the primary a protest vote? Just askin..

I wasn't saying that.  I was referring to your statement that if Romney got the nomination you couldn't vote for him.