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Re: Fox project shotgun
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2011, 09:22:52 PM »
Or by getting some one else to do the work, which FQ seems unable to grasp.    ;D
I just said to call and ask for advice. Its called learning and making contacts. Read before posting Tom. ;)
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Re: Fox project shotgun
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2011, 09:29:56 PM »
I just said to call and ask for advice. Its called learning and making contacts. Read before posting Tom. ;)
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What part of "HE'S GOING TO SCHOOL TO LEARN THIS STUFF AND THIS IS ONE OF HIS PROJECTS" can you not comprehend.
Dude, sometimes you are seriously dense.

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Re: Fox project shotgun
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2011, 09:38:20 PM »
What part of "HE'S GOING TO SCHOOL TO LEARN THIS STUFF AND THIS IS ONE OF HIS PROJECTS" can you not comprehend.
Dude, sometimes you are seriously dense.
Tom, in my line of work, and I hope yours, you find a problem and research it. You go as far as you can on your own. Then you email or call the experts, the one's who wrote the articles that point you in the right direction. You spitball back and forth. All going well, you learn a lot more than you would have just reading their piece and going on your own. You swap ideas and hopefully make a contact. What's so hard to understand about this? Never be too proud to ask for advice. And frankly, most folks LIKE being asked, as long as you are asking intelligent and well informed questions. Everybody wins.
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Re: Fox project shotgun
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2011, 10:11:30 PM »
When I first read your last post my hair and beard bristled as I gasped out "Is that #@&*@ Liberal *&$!# that #$%^&* uncomprehending ? How does a @#$% idiot that*&^%$ numb, remember to breath"
Then it dawned on me you must be yanking my chain, no one who went to school, let alone taught in them until his presidential vote cost him his job, could possibly fail to comprehend the concept that schools that teach gunsmithing would have teachers who were,  (can you guess what's coming ? ) Gunsmiths.
The guys who assigned Mericet the project in the first place, the guys, by the by , he is paying to teach him the trade, will probably be in a far better position to give him help and advice in person, rather than some anonymous voice over the phone who can't actually see what he is talking about on a given subject.

Imagine that ?

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Re: Fox project shotgun
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2011, 10:22:16 PM »
Sometimes I wonder about you Tom. Let me put it in small words. I have full confidence in Mericet's teachers. I am in no way casting aspersions. They might be the Fox shotgun gurus for all I know, BUT.... When a student presents a good teacher with a problem they will do two things. First, tell the student what they know. Second, when dealing with a grad student or a professional student like Mericet, that good teacher will say "Here are a few other people who worked on this problem. Read their stuff and then contact them.". Its how knowledge is shared. Its why we have conferences and journals. We consult each other, we learn from each other. Its also how we build a community of folks working on the same problem. Drug law and the Constitution in my case, or restoring old shotguns in his case. The more competent people working on a problem and learning from each other, either by asking for advice or giving it the better. Introducing a student to professionals in the field who can help them down the road is part of the job. Better still if the student finds them on his own. It shows initiative. My grad school profs would often refuse to answer a question and give me a list of articles to read trusting that if I couldn't find the answers from the texts I would have the good sense to write the author. Why is this such a hard concept for you? I don't get it. ???
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Re: Fox project shotgun
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Re: Fox project shotgun
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2011, 07:36:33 AM »
Never thought this would lead to such a heated discussion!  :)

The project is mine and was not assigned by any teacher. We do have certain restrictions on our projects but for the most part it is fair game. Yes, first priority is to get this functioning. There is some initial responses on the Fox collector forum that indicates the checkering being correct. That being the case, I will research that before making a new stock. (I do have to do a 2 piece stock next semester though) Our senior instructor have already indicated that he will teach me how to resolder the barrels. I think my electronics background might be useful for that.  ;) I might add that the senior instructor not only put me in touch with the seller, but also looked the shotgun over before I bought it.

At this time and unless I have access to a teacher and the equipment, I will do a re-barrel in a few years. It is expensive (~$2K) and not needed for me to do at this time. I am researching doing the rest of the work myself, unless I have the engraving re-cut which is again expensive and beyond my skills at this time.

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Re: Fox project shotgun
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2011, 08:42:26 AM »
Sorry about that,  ;D  I get annoyed with FQ when he can't seem to grasp a simple concept like " learning this stuff is the whole point of paying for the course".

Since it is not an assigned project, I would wait on the engraving until you can do it yourself, if you are going to get into that aspect of things you have to do a "first" sometime and it would be better if it were your own rather than a customer's gun.

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Re: Fox project shotgun
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2011, 12:38:24 PM »
I think it's beautiful, and I don't generally care for metal engraving.. Congrats on the find!!
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Re: Fox project shotgun
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2011, 01:05:26 PM »
actually resolder the barrels is like plumbing, not electronics.  Its really not hard, just a bunch of time.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

 

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