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MikeBjerum

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Sons of Guns Ooooops!
« on: December 23, 2011, 09:29:31 PM »
I hesitate to post this, because it will get those that hate the show ranting.  However, it is a gun issue, and of the two gun building shows on at this time this is the one I like more than the other.

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Sons of Guns loses FFL
December 23, 2011
By Caleb

It’s actually a bit more complicated than that, and the TMZ link doesn’t exactly explain much.  Here’s the story of how Red Jacket Firearms, the shop from Discovery Channel’s Sons of Guns show lost (and regained) their FFL license.

In 2009, the ATF does a routine check of the shop, and lo and behold their books say that they have some guns that they don’t actually have.  That’s generally a no-no.  Now, from Arfcom and other sources we find that Red Jacket Firearms LLC, the actual legal entity featured in the show was founded in 2010 by some of the gunsmiths featured as “employees” on Sons of Guns.  Those employees were the legal business owners and the licensed persons responsible for maintaining the shop’s FFL and keeping the shop in compliance with federal regulations.  Will, the “star” of Sons of Guns is/was an employee of Red Jacket Firearms LLC as is his daughter.

Will losing his FFL actually happened before the show premiered; the business entity that was presented to the viewing public by Discover as Will Hayden’s business actually was the LLC that was jointly owned by several of his “employees.”  The reason this is all coming to light right now?  One of the employees that was the owner of the LLC has decided to leave Red Jacket to start his own business.

http://gunnuts.net/2011/12/23/sons-of-guns-loses-ffl/
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Re: Sons of Guns Ooooops!
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2011, 03:58:39 AM »
Reality TV= BS!
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Re: Sons of Guns Ooooops!
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2011, 06:22:16 AM »
While I like the show, (let's face it, it's no worse than most of the crap they air these days), I've often wondered about the licenses they hold, or should hold, for some of the stuff they mess with. The last show I watched they had a large, fully functional WW II Howitzer they were firing with live ammo they handloaded with 6 pound "bullets" they seated on a hydraulic press.

This type of weapon would require a destructive device license, in addition to an FFL to own it and manufacture parts for it. I'm sure there are other licenses required to manufacture all the Class III stuff they make and buy and sell as well. They are also always rigging stuff up with explosives for greater television effect when they shoot at it. This kind of thing always happens on "American Guns" as well.

Actually, I find "Sons Of Guns" to be a bit more believable than "American Guns". With that ex cop flying off in a $ Million dollar + Bell Jet Ranger helicopter, with a duffel bag filled with tens of thousands in cash to "get the first crack" at some millionaires gun collection. I mean come on, let's get real here. Who puts guns up for sale, then has every gun shop in the state playing "Cannonball Run" to get there to buy them? Anyone with that type of collection is going to sell through a professional auction house. Not simply put word out on the street, then wait for someone to show up in a helicopter, and land in your backyard with a wheelbarrow full of cash to buy them. Let alone a retired cop running a local gun shop. I guess that's why they call it "reality TV". It would never happen in reality.


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Re: Sons of Guns Ooooops!
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2011, 10:22:11 AM »
There is an old saying, "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story."
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Re: Sons of Guns Ooooops!
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2011, 04:01:14 PM »
They are Nationally Syndicated Shows about GUNS!!! (IMHO, A Good Thing).. Let the anti gun crowd flip through the channels this long holiday weekend, and see folks working, earning a living, and blowing stuff up. Bet the Brady Bunch Loves It!!

They also have that show Triggers on the Military Channel, that puts AK's against AR's,...Garands Vs. Arisaka's, Mausers, Enfields, Uzi's ...etc...in shooting competitions...

Whatever the "drama", it is kinda cool to see the fabrication, custom "tweaks", and thinking outside the box,...I liked the Red Jacket episode where they rebuilt a Finnish Anti Tank Recoiless Rifle from WWII and bolted it to a flatbed and used a gun safe as a target.... or the tazer/12g combo..

I expect, the ATF even watches the show.... ;)

BTW, New episode Wed. at 10pm.....involves a Maxim.... ;D


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Re: Sons of Guns Ooooops!
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Re: Sons of Guns Ooooops!
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2011, 05:48:27 PM »
The exploding targets are no big deal.
You get Tannerite in the mail with out any special permit.

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Re: Sons of Guns Ooooops!
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2011, 05:51:03 PM »
The exploding targets are no big deal.
You get Tannerite in the mail with out any special permit.


check your local laws...
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Re: Sons of Guns Ooooops!
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2011, 05:52:55 PM »
The left coast doesn't count!
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Re: Sons of Guns Ooooops!
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2011, 07:05:23 PM »
The exploding targets are no big deal.
You get Tannerite in the mail with out any special permit.

I'm wondering how long that's going to last? All it's going to take is one idiot, and a left wing, anti gun reporter.

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Re: Sons of Guns Ooooops!
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2011, 08:26:32 PM »
Neither of the 2 components is explosive, or even flammable alone.

 

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