Author Topic: Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL  (Read 8713 times)

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Re: Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2011, 06:27:01 PM »
Not much better over at the rifle range.


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I guess when you fail the grenade exercise, you become the "spotter" at the rifle range.... ???

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Re: Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL
« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2011, 06:29:07 PM »
I guess when you fail the grenade exercise, you become the "spotter" at the rifle range.... ???



Hell of a lot better than being the spotter at one of their grenade ranges  ;D ;D
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Re: Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL
« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2011, 07:45:00 PM »
Had a guy throw one at basic and it did not go off, and he crapped himself. No it was not me but I had to stand in line behind him on his second go around. Should have cleaned himself better.
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Re: Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2011, 12:36:05 AM »
I've never been in the military, but does anyone ever FAIL basic training? What happens if they get a really poor, incapable guy? The DI's can only yell and humiliate him so much. Does the Army ever turn anyone away? I met up with a guy at my 20 year high school reunion, who was one of the worst I've ever seen from a physical standpoint. He had just gotten out of the Navy as a Petty Officer after serving 20 years. I was really surprised. He was a super nice guy, but in high school he didn't have the strength to do a pull up or a push up, and couldn't run fast enough to get out of his own way. Perhaps that's why they put him in a submarine?

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Re: Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2011, 01:36:21 AM »
I think you've answered your own question Bill. As long as you're sane, check off all the boxes, and work and play well with others, it is in the military's interest to find a berth for you where you can be of some use. After all, everybody's good at something, and part of their job is figuring out what that is.
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Re: Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL
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Re: Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2011, 03:32:56 AM »
I think you've answered your own question Bill. As long as you're sane, check off all the boxes, and work and play well with others, it is in the military's interest to find a berth for you where you can be of some use. After all, everybody's good at something, and part of their job is figuring out what that is.
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Well, at least for the Marines.

One guy in my son's training platoon in boot was in hot water for intentionally breaking his hand to get out. Was charged actually, something about damaging government property.  ;)

Another was dropped after six attempts to shoot his M-16A2. He just could not qualify. Since every Marine has to be a rifleman first and foremost, if you can't hit the target, the Marines ask (tell?) you to leave.

In all, his platoon was reduced over 10% from start of Boot to graduation.
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Re: Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL
« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2011, 03:37:03 AM »
if you can't hit the target, the Marines ask (tell?) you to leave. In all, his platoon was reduced over 10% from start of Boot to graduation.

What actually happens to these people? Are they dishonorably discharged, or are they willing to tear up their papers and make like it never even happened?

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Re: Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL
« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2011, 04:11:28 AM »
before the 1st 180 days its ELS ( entrey level speration)  Its a uncatagorized discharge.   basicly like it never happen, but you will still have a miltary record, which can be reviewed if you try to renlist.


after 180 days it could be either a honorable discharge or a general discharge.   Generals are normally given for a medical reason that was not cuased by service.   It can also be for minor misconduct issues.  even if a general discharge is under honorable conditions( most are)  its not the same and a honorable discharge.  Atleast as far as VA rights are concerned.


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Re: Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL
« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2011, 07:10:47 AM »
Pathfinder and TAB have covered it for the Marines. I assume the Army is similar.
Navy and Air force are probably more lenient since they both are far less focused on field oriented close combat and have far more chairborne billets.

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Re: Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL
« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2011, 07:15:23 AM »
Pathfinder and TAB have covered it for the Marines. I assume the Army is similar.
Navy and Air force are probably more lenient since they both are far less focused on field oriented close combat and have far more chairborne billets.

It wasn't much different for the Navy in my day.  We lost a couple of guys for various reasons.  Considering the close quarters required aboard ship, they really screw with your head in basic.  We had the physical stuff as well but no combat stuff at all.

Football practice in HS was harder!

 

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